Blade faster than Timo Boll Spirit

Lula · Oct 20, 2018

Hello!

I am playing with Timo Boll Spirit with short pimple(haifu dolphin) on forehand and inverted(rakza x soft) on backhand, but i find the blade to slow. I have also played with the Mazunov and the clipper in the past, but also found them to slow. I need a faster blade for the forehand smash. 0

Are there any blades like the Spirit but faster out there?
What do you guys think about timo boll zlc, timo boll t5000 or the Sardius? or something else from another brand?

I think my playing level is pretty high. I played Swedish division 1(third league) for like 6 years ago, but i think im a better player today.

Thanks

laistrogian · Oct 20, 2018

ZLC is faster but on a very insignificant margin.

I'd recommend going to a Super ZLC blade or perhaps Carbonado 2xx series

Airoc · Oct 21, 2018

laistrogian said:
ZLC is faster but on a very insignificant margin.

I'd recommend going to a Super ZLC blade or perhaps Carbonado 2xx series

Carbonado seems a very good choice, even the 190 is really fast.

FruitLoop · Oct 21, 2018

Not many Koto outer blades faster than Boll ALC.

Primorac Carbon is definitely faster but it's hinoki outer. Carbonado 290 but it's Limba outer. It's an absolute rocket. Bonus it's used by Truls your countryman.

timoboll2 · Oct 21, 2018

Adidas C500, Butterfly Photino, Garaydia ZLC

Lightzy · Oct 21, 2018

TBalc is faster than Viscaria. Most pros use Viscaria.
I dunno what rating you are but dear lord

yogi_bear · Oct 21, 2018

Sanwei F3 Pro is almost a tb alc clone but it is faster by a small margin.

UpSideDownCarl · Oct 21, 2018

If you want faster than TB Spirit, TB ZLC, TB T5000, Sardius, Primorac Carbon, Schlager Carbon would all be good options.

They all would have a different feel than the TB Spirit. The TB ZLC would feel closest to Spirit while being notably faster. But the Sardius, Primorac Carbon and the Schlager Carbon would be faster. Butterfly Garaydia ZLC or T5000 would also be good options.

Lula · Oct 21, 2018

laistrogian said:
ZLC is faster but on a very insignificant margin.

I'd recommend going to a Super ZLC blade or perhaps Carbonado 2xx series

Okey, So the ZLC is no difference from ALC? The super ZLC is just tooo expensive. Carbonado seems good, but i do not like the big bulky ST handles but maybe i can go with flared

Airoc said:
Carbonado seems a very good choice, even the 190 is really fast.

Carbonado again! It do seems lika a good choice!

FruitLoop said:
Not many Koto outer blades faster than Boll ALC.

Primorac Carbon is definitely faster but it's hinoki outer. Carbonado 290 but it's Limba outer. It's an absolute rocket. Bonus it's used by Truls your countryman.

Okey, primorac carbon maybe is an option! Fun facts is that i was Truls coach when he was young

timoboll2 said:
Adidas C500, Butterfly Photino, Garaydia ZLC

Can Adidas really do tabletennis stuff? haha

I have tried the garaydia ALC and found it faster than the TBS so the ZLC can be a good option! The handle feels so good to

Lightzy said:
TBalc is faster than Viscaria. Most pros use Viscaria.
I dunno what rating you are but dear lord

Haha, not all the Pros play with short pimple and try to flathit everything. The TBS is okay, but it needs alot of efffort to smash. Regarding my level, here is a video of me smashing forehand. To bad the sound is off, really disturbing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uCrjA8--qg

yogi_bear said:
Sanwei F3 Pro is almost a tb alc clone but it is faster by a small margin.

Okey, will need to look into that one! Never heard of the Sanwei F3 pro!

UpSideDownCarl said:
If you want faster than TB Spirit, TB ZLC, TB T5000, Sardius, Primorac Carbon, Schlager Carbon would all be good options.

They all would have a different feel than the TB Spirit. The TB ZLC would feel closest to Spirit while being notably faster. But the Sardius, Primorac Carbon and the Schlager Carbon would be faster. Butterfly Garaydia ZLC or T5000 would also be good options.

Okey! I do like the feel off TBS, it is just that i feel that i need more power in the forehand so the Timo Boll ZLC might be the best option. Can the others be to fast so it will be difficult to topspin with the backhand?

Great community this!

Thanks for all the help! Really appreciate it

timoboll2 · Oct 21, 2018

yes, Garaydia ZLC (hinoki upperlayer) is even faster than Garaydia ALC. Garaydia ZLC is about the same speed as Adidas C500. But C500 has Limba upperlayer

Der_Echte · Oct 21, 2018

Drive down to Kävlinge, make a deal with Speedplay, and get hiz Wavestone. You will no longer ask this question.

Lula · Oct 21, 2018

Der_Echte said:
Drive down to Kävlinge, make a deal with Speedplay, and get hiz Wavestone. You will no longer ask this question.

Haha, okey! Will do! Im impressed! namedropping a Swedish city just like that!

Der_Echte · Oct 21, 2018

I know the guy. He was a very active TT forum member in just about any TT forum that existed from a LONG time ago He was TT forum legend, even on a couple secret forums. He doesn't talk on the internet much these days, but I still count him a friend. We talked and talked about so much it would make ur head blow up. He really luv'd on hiz Wavestone a lot.

If it costs too much for the auto fuel and food en route, just get one from wherever, it should be around 300 or so SEK before shipping, but you might have to get it shipped from another country, which could add another 150 or so SEK to the total.

Here is a link to thread on OOAK from a decade ago where someone asked a similar question... that was so long ago, the guy who posted after me (metal monkey) is no longer alive.

https://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7862&p=102805#p102621

yogi_bear · Oct 21, 2018

Also try Xiom Zeta Offensive + carbon. Koto outer ply with carbon aramid. It is faster than tbs.

Der_Echte · Oct 21, 2018

Most of the Yinhe T Series carbons are right up the alley for your specs, they still make a lot of them and in the past, they incubated those suckas like rabbits, so you should have zero problem finding you a T8, a T10, a T2 or and T series Carbon.

You could also ask Speedplay about the Schildkrot 900...

Review 2/3 the way down and also later... http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5437

https://tabletennis-reviews.com/the-schildkrot-review-the-ultimate-chinese-weapon/

Der_Echte · Oct 21, 2018

Lula, you might have played against their best player, Magnus Molin. He is the younger guy with hair on the red team in this vid.

langel · Oct 21, 2018

Galaxy T4s is a smashing monster. Too fast for me.
I still keep Palio TNT 1, which is a little bit slower, but is a smashing hammer too.
Very fast especially paired with tensors, but not suitable for anything aside smashing and blocking.

FruitLoop · Oct 21, 2018

So cool that you coached Truls!

I think try Carbonado 290. A lot of the other speed option blades are 3 ply with hinoki outer and feel a lot more different than the Boll ALC. I think this blade will have the most similar feel whilst being significantly faster. Boll ZLC is faster but not by as much. You also aren't a pops out smasher and that thing can loop like a beast whereas Schlager Carbon etc struggles to loop.

RidTheKid · Oct 21, 2018

Check ttex as they are having a clearance sale atm, all Carbonados for cheap.

Lula said:
Haha, okey! Will do! Im impressed! namedropping a Swedish city just like that!

dhyeymehta · Oct 21, 2018

i think you should go for the carbonado 290 or if you have a very high budget go for either of the the super zlc

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