Starting in tabble tannis

gmccarmo · Dec 4, 2018

Starting in tabble tennis

Hey guys, I want to start practicing table tennis and I'm wondering what would be the best rubbers and blades to start. I was seeing the Rakza 9 for my FH and Xtend HS for my BH, both from Yasaka and a DHS Wind SR-A blade. I'd like to have a speed+spin on my FH and a spin+control on my BH and a 5 ply blade, but I'm insecure in this build, I want to not be discouraged with the sport that I love and I want help from this start.
I am from Brasil and here don't have many options but have some popular brands here.

Lula · Dec 4, 2018

gmccarmo said:
Hey guys, I want to start practicing table tennis and I'm wondering what would be the best rubbers and blades to start. I was seeing the Rakza 9 for my FH and Xtend HS for my BH, both from Yasaka and a DHS Wind SR-A blade. I'd like to have a speed+spin on my FH and a spin+control on my BH and a 5 ply blade, but I'm insecure in this build, I want to not be discouraged with the sport that I love and I want help from this start.
I am from Brasil and here don't have many options but have some popular brands here.

Have you never played before? If yes, then i think you should go with something slower than Rakza 9. I think that to fast rubbers will make your technique worse and will not benefit your developement. Maybe Mark V will be good to start with?

Loopadoop · Dec 4, 2018

If you are an adult now without any prior formal training, then this is more applicable to you.

A lot of good info here. Read the lengthy Intro, 5-10 minutes, well worth your time. Then you can come back here and make a better decision.

https://m.facebook.com/NorthLittleRockTableTennisGroup/

gmccarmo · Dec 5, 2018

Lula said:
Have you never played before? If yes, then i think you should go with something slower than Rakza 9. I think that to fast rubbers will make your technique worse and will not benefit your developement. Maybe Mark V will be good to start with?

Yeah, i already played with some fast rubbers one weekend some months ago, but i don't remember wich ones was .. and i took a look at the mark v family, but is out of stock in the yasaka store here

Loopadoop said:
If you are an adult now without any prior formal training, then this is more applicable to you.

A lot of good info here. Read the lengthy Intro, 5-10 minutes, well worth your time. Then you can come back here and make a better decision.

I really thought about using pimped rubbers first, but idk, seems that the game is in slow mo, i really like fast games and with a lot of effects, for me it's what make me love TT, and using anti and pimped rubbers takes off this sensation for me

Loopadoop · Dec 5, 2018

Whatever you desire, it is a hobby for fun.

At least you now understand the viable alternatives, when making your choice.

yogi_bear · Dec 5, 2018

Start with mark v because it is beginner friendly.

perham · Dec 5, 2018

A good chinese starter kit is Yinhe N11s + two Palio AK47 Yellow rubbers. It should cost you around 40$ in total, and it is quite beginner friendly and good for improvement.

gmccarmo · Dec 5, 2018

i saw that has some mark v to select, should i use the normal one on both side or select some for what i'm looking for?

yogi_bear said:
Start with mark v because it is beginner friendly.

I live in Brazil and here doesn't sell these brands, this market here is a bit scare, and i don't know where i can buy these things online and if they deliver here

perham said:
A good chinese starter kit is Yinhe N11s + two Palio AK47 Yellow rubbers. It should cost you around 40$ in total, and it is quite beginner friendly and good for improvement.

perham · Dec 5, 2018

gmccarmo said:
i saw that has some mark v to select, should i use the normal one on both side or select some for what i'm looking for?

I live in Brazil and here doesn't sell these brands, this market here is a bit scare, and i don't know where i can buy these things online and if they deliver here

AliExpress is your friend.

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pujoki · Dec 5, 2018

Are you going to have training lessons? You can get a little faster paddle if you have a coach helping you with your technique.

I am also from RJ. Where do you play?

gmccarmo · Dec 5, 2018

i'd like to have but for some physical and personal reasons i won't be able to have training lessons for a while. i was seeing to have training lessons on club municipal and lather when i got really good at it i was thinking on join fluminense team, but because of my physical injury (displaced clavicle, nothing extreme, i still can play TT for fun and a little bit serious) it's going to take some time to get really into it

pujoki said:
Are you going to have training lessons? You can get a little faster paddle if you have a coach helping you with your technique.

I am also from RJ. Where do you play?

usualsuspect · Dec 5, 2018

For a beginner, I definitely suggest a blade with good control, like Yasaka Sweden Extra or Stiga Allround Classic. And the basic Mark V (2mm) on both sides. This should cost you about $90 and will last you a long time, as Yasaka blade and rubbers are good quality. This setup is also very light weight. When you get better and decide to be more serious, you can just replace the Mark V with faster rubbers.

gmccarmo · Dec 5, 2018

usualsuspect said:
For a beginner, I definitely suggest a blade with good control, like Yasaka Sweden Extra or Stiga Allround Classic. And the basic Mark V (2mm) on both sides. This should cost you about $90 and will last you a long time, as Yasaka blade and rubbers are good quality. This setup is also very light weight. When you get better and decide to be more serious, you can just replace the Mark V with faster rubbers.

This afternoon I was wondering something about mark v hps on fh and mark v on bh, I already saw mark v in game with a friend, and in my opinion, for my fh seems to be slow, but I'm almost getting the mark v on fh and on bh, about the blade, going on Man Lin Extra Offensive would be too bad for me? I was wondering about this one and DHS wind sr-a, or another 5 ply wood blade

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lVegita · Dec 5, 2018

gmccarmo said:
I live in Brazil and here doesn't sell these brands, this market here is a bit scare, and i don't know where i can buy these things online and if they deliver here

perham said:
AliExpress is your friend.

This!

Aliexpress is prety safe with lots of options. Best place for chinese brands. Shipping time should be longer in December though.

If you want to go with the bigger brands, tabletennis11.com is pretty good. But here, you will pay shipping and probably taxes.

perham said:
A good chinese starter kit is Yinhe N11s + two Palio AK47 Yellow rubbers. It should cost you around 40$ in total, and it is quite beginner friendly and good for improvement.

I actually have one N11s + AK yellow + AK red unassembled here. If you choose to go with these, you can send me a PM.

usualsuspect · Dec 5, 2018

gmccarmo said:
This afternoon I was wondering something about mark v hps on fh and mark v on bh, I already saw mark v in game with a friend, and in my opinion, for my fh seems to be slow, but I'm almost getting the mark v on fh and on bh, about the blade, going on Man Lin Extra Offensive would be too bad for me? I was wondering about this one and DHS wind sr-a, or another 5 ply wood blade

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I think you will be ok with Ma Lin Extra Offensive. This blade is much faster than allround blades, but it has good control.

gmccarmo · Dec 6, 2018

with this blade, for me it's better go with 2.0mm or max? i'm seeing on tabletennis11 the rubbers and the blade

usualsuspect said:
I think you will be ok with Ma Lin Extra Offensive. This blade is much faster than allround blades, but it has good control.

Der_Echte · Dec 6, 2018

It really doesn't matter what OP puts on whatever blade, it will be a huge adjustment.

I am mostly in agreement with pundits to go with middle of the road on everything.

An ALL or ALL+ blade 5-7 ply, and control rubbers.

Every company makes 1-4 of these kind of class of equipment. Too many possible combinations.

gmccarmo · Dec 6, 2018

so i like i'm a beginner i can go with max both on hps and mark v? i'm just afraid that i won't be able to play well with this

Der_Echte said:
It really doesn't matter what OP puts on whatever blade, it will be a huge adjustment.

I am mostly in agreement with pundits to go with middle of the road on everything.

An ALL or ALL+ blade 5-7 ply, and control rubbers.

Every company makes 1-4 of these kind of class of equipment. Too many possible combinations.

Der_Echte · Dec 6, 2018

You got pluses and minuses everywhere.

Common logic is a control based bat of a medium speed 5 or 7 ply blade with modern control oriented rubbers will give a player the best chance to develop strokes and feel for the ball.

Of course none of that matters a ton if a player never gets coaching instruction.

A player without coaching is virtually assured to be making multiple mistakes in fundamentals. This is compounded over time repeating the errors and engraining them.

In such a case, even using the most appropriate bat a player can still suck it up fundamentally forever. There is no configuration of a bat gunna save such a player... and we are all in that boat if we were forever without coaching.

That is why I say it doesn't matter too much without coaching.

Now using a rocket setup and getting no coaching is 10x worse in terms of lazy everything and no feel. That situation sucks and it is of course bad. So is no coaching with a "Good" bat.

That is the way it is. TT isnt easy.

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Der_Echte · Dec 6, 2018

Having said all the good things about middle of the road... a lot of pundits disagree on sponge thickness.

Many advise 1.5 or 1.7 mm. That is much more controllable if you solidly strike the ball, but utterly sucks rocks for thinner contact using topsheet wrap and sponge catapult.

Again, all of it doesn't matter in terms of becoming a good player if one never gets coaching and forever jacks up the basics.

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