What are some of the best light set-up you've tried?

vik2000 · Dec 18, 2018

My current set up is Nittaku Acoustic with Fastarc G1 (2.0mm) on FH and Rakza 7 (2mm) on BH.

So far I've been really pleased with the set up but the racquet weighs at 189g.

I've played with racquet as light as 178g before and I was pleasantly surprised how light it feels.

I'm curious, what are some of the light set up you tried that you really liked? I don't know if it would be possible to create one without sacrificing much spin and speed. I think in order to go light, one would most likely need to have a stiff blade with soft rubbers as they tend to be lighter.

LordPippington · Dec 18, 2018

Feel of heaviness is not tied only to grams on the scale! It has to do with weight distribution as well. Having a light handle with a head heavy blade, plus thick heavy rubbers can make it feel even more burdensome. I have a blade that feels quite heavy, and another one which feels noticeably lighter than it. Put them on the scale, and the "heavy" blade was actually 20 grams lighter!

Some people counter-weight their blades by adding bulk to the handle.

vik2000 · Dec 18, 2018

I agree with you. My Acoustic is the L handle version so it helps distributes the weigh more evenly.

I'm curious to hear what other lighter set up people have tried. Or do most people have set up weighing around 190g?

Sedis · Dec 18, 2018

A lot of blades made by Soulspin, both under their own name and for other brands, can be quite light.
I have a Gewo Königsklasse Karbon Sieben that is only 73g and although I would normally choose something at least 10g heavier, it plays absolutely fine.

Der_Echte · Dec 18, 2018

My beast mod of Stiga Allround Evolution is my all time best "light" setup.

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tropical · Dec 18, 2018

At my club, young kids with arms 1/2 mine can whip their heavy blade + 2 Tenergy rubbers easily. I play OX long pips on BH so my blade is pretty light but I can't whip my blade as fast as these kids. I think techniques are more important than just weight.

LordPippington · Dec 18, 2018

vik2000 said:
I agree with you. My Acoustic is the L handle version so it helps distributes the weigh more evenly.

I'm curious to hear what other lighter set up people have tried. Or do most people have set up weighing around 190g?

I think most are around 180 +/- 5

You could try soulspin roots 9, freitas blade, or any of the popular ones. Just email the sites you order from and ask what their lightest is for a particular blade. They can often vary 10 grams or so. There's your weight knock off right there!

http://www.soulspin.tt/en/technolog...eed-offensive-and-fast-tabletennis-blade.html

Tony's Table Tennis · Dec 18, 2018

I think the lightest I ever glued was 160 grams...
can't remember what it was though (I sell equipment)

Lightzy · Dec 18, 2018

Liu Shiwen ZLF (83g) + 2 AK47 Yellow. 160g. So fun.
Could be even lighter. The LSW is a huge head bat (like 152/153x158)

Also samsonov alpha sgs + acuda P3s. very spinny. I don't remember how much it weighed but feather light

vik2000 · Dec 19, 2018

tropical said:
At my club, young kids with arms 1/2 mine can whip their heavy blade + 2 Tenergy rubbers easily. I play OX long pips on BH so my blade is pretty light but I can't whip my blade as fast as these kids. I think techniques are more important than just weight.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I was going to create another thread talking about the sort of strength training you can do to improve the technique of the game. I mean I'm pretty sure I'm stronger than Harimoto but he has way better techniques in delivering the strength.

vik2000 · Dec 19, 2018

Lightzy said:
Liu Shiwen ZLF (83g) + 2 AK47 Yellow. 160g. So fun.
Could be even lighter. The LSW is a huge head bat (like 152/153x158)

Also samsonov alpha sgs + acuda P3s. very spinny. I don't remember how much it weighed but feather light

How is your experience with AK47 yellow? I thought about trying this as BH, not only because it's a cheap rubber but I can't seem to find any other rubber that's as light as this.

I'm surprised why there aren't more people using this rubber given its price and fairly decent reviews on revspin.net.

Lightzy · Dec 19, 2018

vik2000 said:
How is your experience with AK47 yellow? I thought about trying this as BH, not only because it's a cheap rubber but I can't seem to find any other rubber that's as light as this.

I'm surprised why there aren't more people using this rubber given its price and fairly decent reviews on revspin.net.

On backhand its topsheet isn't as grippy as rakza7 etc. It's more of a spongey rubber like the new generation 'thin topsheet' esns, whereas the older rubbers have better topsheets.
For forehand you can get spin and speed like any of the best rubbers that exist. It releases the ball very fast, more speed than spin. For backhand it's less spinny, but very good speed. It depends on how you like to play.
Also it ranges in hardness a bit so it ranges in weight. There'll be a sheet that's 38g cut and a sheet that's a bit over 40 cut because of being slightly harder. But I guess that's how it is with most rubbers.

Since you're using T05 it might won't work for you. It's a completely different feel and obviously not of same quality make.

yogi_bear · Dec 19, 2018

Stiga Nostalgia all was light for me and not head heavy. This is with hurricane 3 and xiom sigma 2 pro.

vik2000 · Dec 19, 2018

Lightzy said:
On backhand its topsheet isn't as grippy as rakza7 etc. It's more of a spongey rubber like the new generation 'thin topsheet' esns, whereas the older rubbers have better topsheets.
For forehand you can get spin and speed like any of the best rubbers that exist. It releases the ball very fast, more speed than spin. For backhand it's less spinny, but very good speed. It depends on how you like to play.
Also it ranges in hardness a bit so it ranges in weight. There'll be a sheet that's 38g cut and a sheet that's a bit over 40 cut because of being slightly harder. But I guess that's how it is with most rubbers.

Since you're using T05 it might won't work for you. It's a completely different feel and obviously not of same quality make.

Thanks for the info. I should update my profile as I'm currently using Fastarc G1 for FH.

Floris · Dec 19, 2018

I maltreated my Evolution the same as Der Echte and I'm very happy with weigt and balance.

langel · Dec 19, 2018

My lightest setup is 182 gr., the most heavy is 195 gr. and my best setups are 184 gr.

Simas · Dec 31, 2018

LordPippington said:
Feel of heaviness is not tied only to grams on the scale! It has to do with weight distribution as well. Having a light handle with a head heavy blade, plus thick heavy rubbers can make it feel even more burdensome. I have a blade that feels quite heavy, and another one which feels noticeably lighter than it. Put them on the scale, and the "heavy" blade was actually 20 grams lighter!

Some people counter-weight their blades by adding bulk to the handle.

Exactly. The feeling of heaviness depends also on the distance between your blade holding point (handle) and centre of mass point.

tropical said:
At my club, young kids with arms 1/2 mine can whip their heavy blade + 2 Tenergy rubbers easily. I play OX long pips on BH so my blade is pretty light but I can't whip my blade as fast as these kids. I think techniques are more important than just weight.

I'd agree that the speed of the arm movement depends mostly on your skills (a.k.a TT technique training) and not on your raw physical condition. Let's admit, the masses we are talking about are minuscule...

Lightzy said:
Liu Shiwen ZLF (83g) + 2 AK47 Yellow. 160g. So fun.
Could be even lighter. The LSW is a huge head bat (like 152/153x158)

I'm close but not there yet. This is my daily driver with H3Neo and Donic Bluefire on Stiga OFF (it has a mid-sized head) -173 grams

And this is with H3Neo and Palio when I did some EJ thing... -167grams

Lightzy · Dec 31, 2018

lol it was just a fun experiment

yogi_bear · Dec 31, 2018

Offensive classics are very light nowadays. I remember them to be a bit heavier like 87 grams. At least from the 3 i have owned before.

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