New Butterfly rubber "Dignics 05" 2019

NoFootwork said:

Good point. And with Butterfly you don't have to worry about whether or not your National or Provincial H3N is fake (I use provincial H3N BTW and it seems to do the job for me although I have no idea whether or not its the genuine/real article )

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laistrogian said:

I have yet to try the tenergy 05 hard which i’m excited about since i left T05 for fastarc g1 due to the sponge hardness

I guess i’ll wait for the D80 for my BH rubber since I felt that T05 lacks a bit of punch power but 80 feels soft at times

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NoFootwork said:

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

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jawien said:

Donn are you a bot?

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NoFootwork said:

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

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jawien said:

Whups : ) Sorry Donn.

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NoFootwork said:

Donn is very much a person although he has a unique writing style. He is the author of Principles Approach of Table Tennis (PATT) book: https://www.amazon.com/PATT-Principles-Approach-Table-Tennis/dp/0615308872

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TableTennisNerd said:

Bother, this means my EJ is gonna force me to buy the Harimoto blade alongside two sheets of this damned rubber...

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NoFootwork said:

Good point. And with Butterfly you don't have to worry about whether or not your National or Provincial H3N is fake (I use provincial H3N BTW and it seems to do the job for me although I have no idea whether or not its the genuine/real article )

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ttpshot said:

Yeah, that's the thing. People seem happy to pay whatever amount for H3N in black market but complain about the price of Tenergy. H3N is darn fine rubber too but at least Butterfly make it avaialble to public (eventualy).

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Suga D said:

The used font and the wording of the posts made it look suspicious to me as well.

Glad he's not. Welcome to the forum, Donn

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jawien said:

Is the book written in a similar manner? Just kidding guys ... ; )

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NextLevel said:

Actually, yes.

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jawien said:

Then ... maybe I should buy it. Sorry @Donn, of course : ) I just could not make sense of your writings, just as I could not find the meaning in the futuristic BOT poetry ... looks like, for quite the opposite reasons. Still looking what "Also the idoneous surfacing from ..." might mean ...

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AndySmith said:

T05's position was never objectively sacrosanct. Anyone who genuinely believes that is just fooling themselves. It's a great rubber, but no piece of equipment is one-size-fits-all, and table tennis has changed substantially since T05 was introduced. Even without that, there is always room for improvement and thinking that T05 (or anything) is some sort of peak which can never be exceeded is just an artificial ceiling people decide to introduce.

That said, Butterfly have engineered an aura around their products which leads to consumers thinking that their stuff is objectively better than everything else out there. They're the masters of it, and once they achieved their market position they protected it like a crocodile with its eggs, which is only sensible when your retail price is so high (even if I personally dislike it). So they have painted themselves into a corner somewhat, as your post demonstrates. If you convince the market that your product is the absolute best, how do you then convince that same market that something new is better without eroding the original base? You market it as a variation aimed at a different type of player (like T05H) perhaps.

BTY are in a delicate position, but I'm sure they know what they're doing. The dominant product position always gets eroded over time, and they've probably decided now is the time to strike to avoid that.

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zeio said:

Just wanted to point out that Provincial and National H3 have been officially available to the public in China since 2006 and 2009, respectively. In recent years, anyone can get them from the official DHS online store on TMall, or if you feel like paying extra for an English interface.

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