Marvellous 12 2019

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Also Qin Zhijian talked about Zhang jike : He will be in Shenzen too, for some promotion activities , Recently he didn't have much training but I believe that as long as he still has the desire to play and the motivation and courage to continue to play on the field , The chinese table tennis team still welcomes him back . 而另一位大满贯选手张继科,在赛前退出了直通赛的较量,他的近况让不少球迷和媒体格外关注。对此,秦志戬教练介绍道:“继科本来也是要来(深圳),参加一些直通赛的宣传和推广活动。最近他没有太多的训练,自己也是主动说我放弃这次直通比赛的机会。但是我相信他只要还有打球的愿望,还有继续征战赛场上的动力和勇气,中国乒乓球队还是欢迎他能回来。

If they ban all the Chinese TV channels/shows to hire ZJK, he will come to T.T. sincerely.
 
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He got his revenge on him. Let's see if he can stomp Hugo Calderano at WTTC.

When FZD can win the toughest competition in the world unbeaten, Hugo is no match for him, unless, FZD is having an off day at work. There is no doubt about it !!! If Hugo was in M12, I am sure he would be in bottom two at best.
 
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Results from Day 4 (Sun 03 March 2019)

Men's Singles

Round 9 (continued):
Fan Zhendong 3:1 Xu Xin (11:6, 9:11, 11:8, 11:6)
Liang Jingkun 3:0 Wang Chuqin (11:7, 11:5, 11:9)
Fang Bo 3:1 Zhao Zihao (11:8, 11:9, 9:11, 11:6)


Round 10:
Yu Ziyang 3:2 Xu Chenhao (13:15, 11:9, 9:11, 11:5, 11:5)
Zhou Kai 3:2 Lin Gaoyuan (8:11, 11:6, 11:4, 9:11, 11:6)
Yan An 3:1 Zhao Zihao (11:13, 11:6, 11:5, 11:4)
Wang Chuqin 3:0 Xu Xin (11:3, 11:3, 12:10)
Fan Zhendong 3:1 Fang Bo (11:5, 16:14, 6:11, 11:8)
Xue Fei 3:2 Liang Jingkun (9:11, 11:8, 7:11, 11:8, 11:6)


Round 11:
Xu Chenhao 3:2 Liang Jingkun (11:9, 11:9, 8:11, 3:11, 12:10)
Zhou Kai 3:2 Yu Ziyang (14:12, 8:11, 11:8, 8:11, 11:7)
Lin Gaoyuan 3:0 Zhao Zihao (13:11, 11:3, 11:8)
Fan Zhendong 3:2 Yan An (11:9, 8:11, 11:5, 8:11, 11:6)
Xue Fei 3:2 Xu Xin (11:6, 11:8, 5:11, 10:12, 11:7)
Wang Chuqin 3:0 Fang Bo (11:9, 11:7, 11:5)


Final standings:
01) Fan Zhendong [3:0+2:0+3:0+3:0 = 11:0]
02) Liang Jingkun [3:0+2:0+2:1+1:2 = 8:3]
03) Xue Fei [0:3+2:1+2:1+2:0 = 6:5]
04) Yu Ziyang [2:1+1:1+1:3+1:1 = 5:6]
05) Fang Bo [1:2+2:1+1:1+1:2 = 5:6]
06) Xu Xin [1:2+2:1+2:0+0:3 = 5:6]
07) Zhou Kai [0:3+1:2+2:1+2:0 = 5:6]
08) Yan An [2:1+1:2+1:2+1:1 = 5:6]
09) Lin Gaoyuan [2:1+1:1+1:3+1:1 = 5:6]
10) Xu Chenhao [1:2+0:2+2:2+1:1 = 4:7]
11) Wang Chuqin [2:1+0:3+0:2+2:1 = 4:7]
12) Zhao Zihao [1:2+1:1+1:2+0:3 = 3:8]


Women's Singles

Round 9:
Wang Yidi 3:2 Ding Ning (11:7, 12:10, 6:11, 8:11, 11:9)
Liu Shiwen 3:2 Chen Xingtong (5:11, 4:11, 11:9, 11:7, 11:4)
Sun Mingyang 3:0 He Zhuojia (11:6, 11:7, 11:9)
Chen Meng 3:1 Zhu Yuling (11:9, 7:11, 11:7, 11:7)
Wang Manyu 3:0 Wu Yang (11:5, 11:4, 11:9)
Sun Yingsha 3:1 Gu Yuting (13:11, 7:11, 11:4, 12:10)


Round 10:
Ding Ning 3:2 Zhu Yuling (13:11, 11:6, 6:11, 6:11, 11:7)
Liu Shiwen 3:1 Wang Yidi (11:6, 5:11, 11:9, 11:4)
Chen Xingtong 3:1 He Zhuojia (11:8, 8:11, 11:6, 11:5)
Sun Mingyang 3:2 Wang Manyu (7:11, 3:11, 11:5, 11:7, 11:7)
Chen Meng 3:1 Gu Yuting (11:4, 11:9, 7:11, 11:8)
Sun Yingsha 3:1 Wu Yang (11:7, 11:7, 7:11, 13:11)


Round 11:
Chen Xingtong 3:2 Wang Manyu (11:6, 9:11, 8:11, 11:8, 11:9)
Liu Shiwen 3:0 He Zhuojia (11:3, 11:7, 11:6)
Zhu Yuling 3:2 Wang Yidi (8:11, 11:7, 9:11, 11:7, 13:11)
Chen Meng 3:0 Wu Yang (12:10, 11:8, 11:3)
Ding Ning 3:1 Gu Yuting (11:3, 11:9, 9:11, 11:8)
Sun Yingsha 3:2 Sun Mingyang (5:11, 11:6, 4:11, 11:7, 11:9)


Final standings:
01) Chen Meng [3:0+3:0+1:1+3:0 = 10:1]
02) Sun Yingsha [2:1+2:1+1:1+3:0 = 8:3]
03) Ding Ning [3:0+1:2+2:0+2:1 = 8:3]
04) Wang Manyu [3:0+1:1+2:1+1:2 = 7:4]
05) Liu Shiwen [2:1+1:2+0:2+3:0 = 6:5]
06) Zhu Yuling [2:1+1:1+2:1+1:2 = 6:5]
07) Wang Yidi [2:1+2:0+1:2+1:2 = 6:5]
08) Chen Xingtong [0:3+1:1+2:1+2:1 = 5:6]
09) Wu Yang [1:2+2:1+1:1+0:3 = 4:7]
10) Sun Mingyang [0:3+0:3+2:0+2:1 = 4:7]
11) He Zhuojia [0:3+0:2+1:2+0:3 = 1:10]
12) Gu Yuting [0:3+1:1+0:3+0:3 = 1:10]


Source: https://sports.qq.com/marvellous12/

OMG LGY lost many matches to my surprise. And Xue Fei beat Liang Jingkun?? That's another big upset. LJK's style naturally is anti-penhold.
 
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the host:how will you spend the money? a millian RMB?
FZD: I haven't thought about it, but i will leave it after Budapest.
the host: very well,and how about you,CM?
CM: first I'd like to thank chairman Liu and the sponsor...
LGL: bull shit. bull shit. Her dad is coming here wait (for the money).

xuxin: if there were bonus in the early years i've already been millionaire.

FZD post weibo today: haven't win enough, see you at Budapest.
 
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When FZD can win the toughest competition in the world unbeaten, Hugo is no match for him, unless, FZD is having an off day at work. There is no doubt about it !!! If Hugo was in M12, I am sure he would be in bottom two at best.

It's really tough to compare in this way. This is an internal event with players who have probably played against each other for a disproportionate number of hours. It's a different kind of challenge when you compare to playing internationally against players with very different styles. Familiarity, motivation, reward, risk, pressure are all different.
 
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It's really tough to compare in this way. This is an internal event with players who have probably played against each other for a disproportionate number of hours. It's a different kind of challenge when you compare to playing internationally against players with very different styles. Familiarity, motivation, reward, risk, pressure are all different.

Yeah. People also underestimate the impact and depth of CNT analytics and coaching. Hugo IMO would be a top player on Super League if he played. He is not technically flawed or lacking in power. His abilities just make it hard for him to sharpen his game without the right level of opposition. If someone like Wang Hao could seriously coach him we would see something special.
 
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Yeah. People also underestimate the impact and depth of CNT analytics and coaching. Hugo IMO would be a top player on Super League if he played. He is not technically flawed or lacking in power. His abilities just make it hard for him to sharpen his game without the right level of opposition. If someone like Wang Hao could seriously coach him we would see something special.

I like Calderano, but he needs to improve his shot selections and short game, which, incidentally, are also the two areas FZD needed improvement on in the past year.
 
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OMG LGY lost many matches to my surprise. And Xue Fei beat Liang Jingkun?? That's another big upset. LJK's style naturally is anti-penhold.

I'm really surprised to see Zhao Zihao finishing in last place. He got through phase 1 selection at the top of men's list.
 
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In the press conference, Qin Zhijian gave a summary of the Marvelous 12 2019.

https://sports.qq.com/a/20190304/000008.htm
首先他表扬了樊振东,“赛前对樊振东的要求非常苛刻,要求他不一定要拿冠军,但要求他一定要全胜。因为世界锦标赛是连续胜7场就可以拿冠军,既然做到了就这个要求就不苛刻。樊振东有这样的能力、天赋、梦想和追求。”
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许昕和林高远都在这次的比赛发挥一般,秦志戬也分析了他们各自的原因。“许昕作为直板打法,在队内难度更大一些。他的特点也是国际赛场上运用自己的超强的纠缠能力为球队得分。一个直通的比赛,是队内的比赛,队内还是练兵,主要是一致对外。”

而对于林高远,秦志戬认为还是心态上出了问题。“前几天在场上林高远显得有些迷茫。我和他有一些沟通,觉得是赛前定位有些偏高。毕竟两年前在家乡取得了直通名额,这两年刻苦努力,一直也攀升到世界排名第三,一直在进步。”

“所以这次比赛之前可能目标和定位有些偏高。他的目标是前两名,但其实全面的能力显得有些单薄。而且队友对他的看法也和两年前不一样,认为他是世界第三,会放开手脚拼他。心态一起一伏,无形之中整个节奏和赛前的准备和战术的运用会带来负面的东西。通过比赛,每个队员发现问题,通过封闭训练解决问题。”
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关于比赛的质量,他表示:“从男队的角度来说,比赛的质量还是非常高,无论是第一名樊振东,全胜的战绩,四到九名的小分计算,差得也是分毫之间。29场达成3-2,概率在40%。这也说明一个激烈程度,水平差距也并不大。”

至于大循环的赛制,秦志戬也表示这是教练组有意为之。“历来的大循环,无论男队女队,这些运动员还是很纠结的,大家水平差不多,这么高的运动量和对抗。不光是练技术,也是练人。一听到大循环,仿佛就是噩梦。教练组也是希望残酷的赛制和公平的竞争,调动出斗志和激情,和全方位的能力。能用非常好的节奏进入大赛前的封闭集训。”

剩下的世锦赛参赛名额,将在晚些时候公布,秦志戬透露,“时间节点大概是3月初或者3月中。前一段我们发布了备战体系,参谋部会拿出名额分配的建议去研究,更合理的编排名额,我们的终极目标还是为了东京奥运会。”
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本次直通赛缺少了马龙和张继科,秦志戬介绍说:“马龙来了深圳,一直在枕边做伤病的康复。从这两天的恢复情况看还是不错的,卡塔尔公开赛为他报了名,希望他能站在卡塔尔公开赛上。”

“张继科最近也没有太多训练,之前跟队里表示放弃本次比赛的资格,他本来也是要来深圳参加一些推广宣传。我相信他只要还有打球的愿望,还有站在赛场上的动力和勇气,中国队还是非常欢迎他。”
First of all, he praised Fan Zhendong. "Before the game, the target set for Fan Zhendong was very demanding. He didn't have to take the title, but he was required to remain undefeated. Because all it takes to win the WTTC is a 7-match winning streak, the demand is not harsh if you meet it. Fan Zhendong has such ability, talent, dream and pursuit."
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Xu Xin and Lin Gaoyuan both performed so-so in this competition. Qin Zhijian also gave his analysis on the reasons. "Xu Xin has it more difficult as a penholder in the team. His characteristics are also the use of his own super-strong entanglement ability to score for the team in international competitions. The trial is an internal competition, and internal competition is still training, mainly to get them to close ranks."

For Lin Gaoyuan, Qin Zhijian believes that there is still a problem in the mentality. "A few days ago, Lin appeared a little lost. I had some words with him. I think the target set before the trial was a bit high. After all, he got a direct entry in his hometown 2 years ago. He has worked hard in the past 2 years, has climbed to No. 3 in world ranking and has been improving."

"So before the trial, the target and positioning might be somewhat high. His goal was finishing in the top 2, but in fact his overall ability is still a bit thin. Besides, his teammates think differently of him as opposed to 2 years ago. Thinking he is 3rd in the world, they will go all out. Given the contrast in mentalities, the whole rhythm, the prematch preparation and the use of tactics will cause a negative effect. Through the trial, each member would find the problems and then solve them during closed training.”
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Regarding the quality of the competition, he said: "From the perspective of the men's team, the quality of the competition is still very high. From the 1st place, the undefeated Fan Zhendong, to the tiebreaker from the 4th place to 9th place, the difference is minimal. 29 matches ended in 3-2, a probability of 40%. This also indicates the degree of intensity, and the gap in level is not huge."

As for the huge round-robin format, Qin Zhijian also said that this is the intention of the coaching staff. "In every huge round-robin, regardless of the men's and women's teams, the players are very torn. Everyone is close in level, and such a high amount of exertion and confrontation. Not only does it hone your skills, but also you as a human being. When they hear the phrase huge round-robin, it sounds like a nightmare. The coaching staff also hopes, through a brutal format and fair competition, to mobilize their fighting spirit, passion and all-round ability, so that they can enter the closed training before a major tournament at an excellent pace."

The remaining spots will be announced later. "The announcement will probably be from early March to mid-March...We've actually released the whole plan of our preparations, which is divided into several parts. The Panel will come up with suggestions and opinions to be studied at the meeting and rationally arrange our doubles, mixed doubles and singles spots. Our ultimate goal is the Tokyo Olympics!" said Qin Zhijian.
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This trial lacked Ma Long and Zhang Jike. Qin Zhijian said: "Ma Long has also come, he has been doing some rehabilitation. He is making good progress in recovery, judging from the past 2 days. We signed him up for the Qatar Open and hope that he could play in Qatar."

"Zhang Jike hasn't have much training recently. He told us he would pass on this qualification. He originally planned to come to Shenzhen to help with the promotion. I believe that so long as he has the desire to play and the motivation and courage to stand in the arena, the CNT still very much welcomes him."
 
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@zeio, my man, what's going on here? I take it they two are retiring as CNT coaches?

Ya, Chen Bin and Zhang Qin are retiring.

Chen Bin reveals he has a heart condition and in the news it's said that he's gone through a few operations. He's at his limit and fears his heart won't stand the pressure anymore. The last thing he wants is for DN to find a replacement coach right before Tokyo 2020. DN was the last one to know. Needless to say, she was all teary. DN revealed he would pay a tribute to the temple back at his home every year and make a wish for his health. In 2016, Chen Bin wished for DN to become Olympic Champion in lieu of his health.

Zhang Qin says she has disregarded her obligation as a mom, wife and daughter in the last decade. I read a comment saying that her kids were asked where her mom is and they responded "in the TV." Now that her kids are older and her parents are aging, she wants to spend more time with them.
 
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It's really tough to compare in this way. This is an internal event with players who have probably played against each other for a disproportionate number of hours. It's a different kind of challenge when you compare to playing internationally against players with very different styles. Familiarity, motivation, reward, risk, pressure are all different.
I agree, I too can defeat mostly all of my teammates and when we do have tournaments (everyone gives 2-5 euros, play each other, winnter takes all), I win most of the time. But in the league you see I am 2nd or 3rd player mostly.
 
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I read from a recent interview, Ma Long still expresses strong desire to compete in both Qatar open and the world championship. He says his recovery is going well and he's expected to compete in Qatar open in form.

Yes, I've been reading a lot for a long time about ZJK's return too. And I wish it were so, for both of them actually. I also hope Samsonov will claim Olympic gold in 2020. Because without her dreams, what is a girl?
 
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