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Too much stuff for me to read all of it. Just too busy.
The Tennis Elbow stretches may not be so good for shoulder issues.
TT can be hard on the shoulder. Especially when everyone wants to copy the FH the way the top CNT players do it with the whole arm.
In TT, when you have a shoulder issue, learning how to do the Timo Boll FH where you don't move your upper arm; instead you use your legs, your hips and the elbow bending to get that forearm snap, that would put A LOT LESS stress on your shoulder.
That being said, it is very hard to learn to isolate your forearm and keep the upper arm stable. But without reading the whole thread and without doing an in person assessment of the shoulder, that would be the first thing I would say.
The CNT FH is excellent but, even if you are training with that from an early age, it can be hard on the shoulder. Just like pitchers in baseball, they train their whole lives for throwing the ball. But many of them end up having surgery. There are certain things our shoulders do not like to do quite so often.
Why is this different than Tennis? I am not 100% sure it is. But if it is:
1) the tennis racket is much heavier than a table tennis racket. I know that sounds backwards. But, think of a boxer throwing punches. The ones where he lands the punch usually don't bother the shoulder. But the ones where the boxer misses can hurt like hell. As a kid I pitched in baseball. When I was throwing a hardball, it was pretty okay. But we would also play with tennis balls. The tennis ball was way lighter. And when I had pitched 5 or 6 innings with a tennis ball, man my shoulder would hate me for days. With the heavier hardball, after 9 innings, my arm would be sore the next day. But it was like I worked out. Not like someone stabbed me in the shoulder.The heavier racket hitting into the heavier ball, is a little safer than the TT racket and ball.
2) In a lifetime of training, my money says a TT player hits way more FH strokes than a tennis player of the same level.
So, an all forearm FH with the shoulder joint stable will help protect your shoulder.
And Timo can hit a pretty mean FH that way.
Thank you for the answer Carl
I used too much shoulder before and my chinese trainer made me improve my FH loop technique and I got much better in that department!Nice comparision on 1) !
and yeah I think that applies to me for sure! Even with SP on BH right now I use more my FH!Despite he's Chinese, he told me what you said when he was trying to change my FH tehnique. If I continued to loop using too much my shoulder I soon would have to retire because arm injury! He also explained that was the reason that Zhang Jike got his injury, because he used too much shoulder on his FH loop.
Having said that, he changed my FH loop from a long and slow movement and using too much shoulder, where I barely could hit hard, because almost out of timing to such a long movement into a hard and fast FH loop, without shoulder, and much more healthier!
