Butterfly Tenergy 80 or Butterfly Tenergy 05?

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

Hi guys, I use T05 for 10 years with 1 thin layer of Falco tempo long booster and I played TT 6 times a week and trained a lot. That fits perfect for me. Now I can play 4-5 times a week and I can train less. My perfect combo become little little to fast for my taste and present abilities. I decide to stop using booster. My question is will Tenergy 80 will be better for me or Tenergy 05 (without using booster) for hardness of whole rubber I make when I put layer of booster on T05? I know that T05 and T80 have same hardness of sponge. Advanced thankfull

NDH · Feb 7, 2019

Hi Master of loops,

This might be a poor assumption, but if you were playing TT 6 times per week for 10 years and still playing 4-5 times per week now....... I'm not sure anyone on the internet will be as good a judge as you.

What level did you play at?

Personally, I'd use T05 without the booster.

I tried T80 and didn't get on with it as much as T05.

RidTheKid · Feb 7, 2019

T80 is mostly meh.

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

NDH said:
Hi Master of loops,

This might be a poor assumption, but if you were playing TT 6 times per week for 10 years and still playing 4-5 times per week now....... I'm not sure anyone on the internet will be as good a judge as you.

What level did you play at?

Personally, I'd use T05 without the booster.

I tried T80 and didn't get on with it as much as T05.

I trained for 2 hours a day but there are a lot players in Serbia that train more then that. In 6 times a week I count 1 day of league match or tournament. I play National level tournaments. Once I was 9th for senior championship of Serbia. I am good for TT in Serbia but there are stronger players then me. Thanks for reply, i am huge fan of T05 because of spin on serves and on loops

yoass · Feb 7, 2019

OP's level is probably way above mine. That is a very fast blade right there, if (s)he's indeed using a Mizutani ZLC...

But I've played with both T80 and T05 on slower blades. I slightly preferred T80 in serving, the short game, active blocks and counterspins at/above the table. I preferred T05 for looping in general, especially on deep backspin openups and in powerplay away from the table. I can brush loop well with T05, and have a hard time with that with T80.

T80 is quite a bit more reactive, and when I play it produces flatter trajectories, with a substantially lower margin of error. T05 offers more safety. If more control is required, I wouldn't move from T05 to T80. Quite the contrary. A blade a notch slower/less edgy, though...

FruitLoop · Feb 7, 2019

Keep same rubber and stop applying the booster is the most same thing to do if all you want is a reduction in speed.

NDH · Feb 7, 2019

Master_of_loops said:
I trained for 2 hours a day but there are a lot players in Serbia that train more then that. In 6 times a week I count 1 day of league match or tournament. I play National level tournaments. Once I was 9th for senior championship of Serbia. I am good for TT in Serbia but there are stronger players then me. Thanks for reply, i am huge fan of T05 because of spin on serves and on loops

I honestly think you will be able to get better advice from people around you.

I'm not sure many people will be on your level on these forums, and to be honest, what they think is irrelevant as you'll likely have a completely different opinion.

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

yoass said:
OP's level is probably way above mine. That is a very fast blade right there, if (s)he's indeed using a Mizutani ZLC...

But I've played with both T80 and T05 on slower blades. I slightly preferred T80 in serving, the short game, active blocks and counterspins at/above the table. I preferred T05 for looping in general, especially on deep backspin openups and in powerplay away from the table. I can brush loop well with T05, and have a hard time with that with T80.

T80 is quite a bit more reactive, and when I play it produces flatter trajectories, with a substantially lower margin of error. T05 offers more safety. If more control is required, I wouldn't move from T05 to T80. Quite the contrary. A blade a notch slower/less edgy, though...

Thx for reply,

I (male with long hair)

indeed using Jun MIzutani ZLC (have collection of two of them with old print style). This blade I wont change because I use and trust Mizutani ZLC since 2009

It fits perfect for me and my style of play. Before Mizutani ZLC I used Maze OFF. I can and I have abilities to control and use speed of Mizutani ZLC especially now when I decide to stop using booster.

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

FruitLoop said:
Keep same rubber and stop applying the booster is the most same thing to do if all you want is a reduction in speed.

This is my opinion also

langel · Feb 7, 2019

Both are perfect rubbers.
For some players.
For some are not.

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Feb 7, 2019

Master_of_loops you were #9 player in Serbia, you must be even better ranked among all TTD forumers !!!

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

Takkyu_wa_inochi said:
Master_of_loops you were #9 player in Serbia, you must be even better ranked among all TTD forumers !!!

I was #9 on only one championship (I think 2009 or 2010), not #9 on the end of the season ranking list

I am good but there are better then me in Serbia

RidTheKid · Feb 7, 2019

Any match video to share?

Master_of_loops said:
I was #9 on only one championship (I think 2009 or 2010), not #9 on the end of the season ranking list I am good but there are better then me in Serbia

FruitLoop · Feb 7, 2019

You probably already played with unboosted tenergy 05 when the boost wore off before reboosting so wouldn't take any adjustments.

FruitLoop · Feb 7, 2019

Takkyu_wa_inochi said:
Master_of_loops you were #9 player in Serbia, you must be even better ranked among all TTD forumers !!!

Depends what you mean, there are pro players who have posted on here!

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Feb 7, 2019

How many of them

Joe141 · Feb 7, 2019

Hi I also play 4 to 5 times a week and play national level but at a junior level. I would agree with the other experienced forum members and use unboosted t05 as ( at least for me) It pairs nicer with a mizutani zlc and also there is a reason why t80 isn't used much; not near as spiny or controlled as t05

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

RidTheKid said:
Any match video to share?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Mo0iN6t58

1.33 is one of my good points (I am guy with afro haircut).

Master_of_loops · Feb 7, 2019

Joe141 said:
Hi I also play 4 to 5 times a week and play national level but at a junior level. I would agree with the other experienced forum members and use unboosted t05 as ( at least for me) It pairs nicer with a mizutani zlc and also there is a reason why t80 isn't used much; not near as spiny or controlled as t05

Thx for this great reply man

NDH · Feb 7, 2019

Master_of_loops said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Mo0iN6t58

1.33 is one of my good points (I am guy with afro haircut).

OK, 2 things I want to say.

1. Great hair!

2. Great t-shirt!

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