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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      Ok, Synectics, involved in development and market distribution, ITC is a brand name, but I do believe that the real producer is still ESN. Or maybe I'm wrong, though I don't think so.


      p.s. = maybe the Google translater is not very accurate:

      "DONIC Bluestorm RSM is a new rubber from DoNIC, Europe's leading brand. The Blue Storm series is Donik's flagship rubber, and a total of five (Z1, Z2, Z3, Z1 Turbo and Big Slam) have been released so far, and the sixth version, the Blue Storm RSM, has been released. However, the new Bluestorm RSM is a different rubber from the previous Bluestorm series. First of all, Bluestorm RSM is a rubber produced by the head of Synonics Group, the official Korean agency. Usually, rubber is developed and produced mainly at the headquarters, but Bluestorm RSM is a rubber produced after close consultation with Donik Germany headquarters led by Synextics Group."

      from here:

      http://www.airping.co.kr/01life/03_1...w&bbscode=bba2
      Last edited by langel; 09-07-2019 at 12:52 PM.

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    3. Top | #142
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      Quote Originally Posted by Airoc View Post
      And yet on the sponge it says Made In Germany in pretty much standard ESN typeface.
      I think the term "produced by" is used in the sense of Hollywood movies.

      First of all, Blue Storm RSM is the official Korean agency Rubber produced by the Synectics Group. Usually, rubber is developed and produced mainly at the headquarters, but Bluestorm RSM is a rubber produced after close consultation with Donik Germany headquarters led by Synectics Group.
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      The rubbers for Xiom are the ones you are seeing in the LARC. I have seen more than what is advertised.

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      This has been out there for 4 months.



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      Again, there are still more than just advertised.

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      Well, the point I'm trying to make is I'm not missing out much if you can't speak about it because of the NDA, which is what AndySmith was hinting at.

      I mean I know Butterfly is working on a new blade material. Those in the know know about it. I'm not bound by NDA here but I still won't talk about it. You're not missing out much. See?

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      with the Omega 7 Hyper Hard(60°) what would the price be around? im curious

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      I understand the need to build hype for new stuff, but...we need something or it's just too vague! Also, trying in vain to goad yogi into revealing things but he's not biting.

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      Just my opinion probably around 100usd

      Quote Originally Posted by 729B2 View Post
      with the Omega 7 Hyper Hard(60°) what would the price be around? im curious

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      Deep Impact Thermo Control? Does this mean Xiom is joining the heat treated wood gang?

      Please let me know if I'm prying too much, but did Xiom tell you their thesis on these blades?

      AFAIK heat treatment makes wood weaker, are they trying to slow down a carbon blade? What specific feel/characteristics are the designers going after?

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      hmm what does 60 degree translate to? in dhs scale?

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      Quote Originally Posted by 729B2 View Post
      hmm what does 60 degree translate to? in dhs scale?
      “Brick”..

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      Quote Originally Posted by yoass View Post
      “Brick”..
      Haahahahahahahahah

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      Peevious setup
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      Timo boll alc + Rakza9 BH mx black + Tenergy 05 2.1mm FH red. Initially it was hard to control but slowing felling much better

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      lol indeed so the brick would be about 42-43 degree on the DHS scale?

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      Even with a 60 degree sponge, the topsheet is soft so mostly it would feel like 55 degrees but still it is hard. The tuning in the sponge though makes it a lil softer. The rubbers i tested were softer than their actual hardness.
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      Quote Originally Posted by 729B2 View Post
      lol indeed so the brick would be about 42-43 degree on the DHS scale?
      My conversion utility tells me: Asker C 60 ~= 43.5º Shore A. Slightly softer than unobtanium.

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      coolies thank guys ill buy one!

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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      I've ordered the Yasaka Atletico Power, interesting to see if it behaves the same as W968. If it does it should be considered a great bargain.
      Any opinion about the yasaka blade? Have you used it?

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      Yasaka issued 2020 table tennis catalog and the main highlights are Rakza Z (47-52°) and Rakza Z Extra Hard (52-57°). Both rubbers are made in Germany.

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