Back to Forum
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 44
  1. Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 0 9
    A
    Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 9 0
    #21
    That would be great. I am also wondering which one r45 or r50 is closer to rhyzm-p because I use r-p for about 2 years. My old setup is joola k7 and rhyzm-p both sides. Now I am planing to purhase nobilis pbo-c with rhyzer pro 50 or 45. What do you think. I am not in possition to test this setup first

  2. yogi_bear is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 2,738 5,833
    yogi_bear's Avatar
    yogi_bear is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Master TTD Member 5,833 2,738
    #22
    Rhyzm p has just a different feel becausw it was softer overall and the topsheet easily erodes but i guess you can go with r43

  3. Airoc is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 876 1,242
    A
    Airoc is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,242 876

    User Info Menu

    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Armin
    That would be great. I am also wondering which one r45 or r50 is closer to rhyzm-p because I use r-p for about 2 years. My old setup is joola k7 and rhyzm-p both sides. Now I am planing to purhase nobilis pbo-c with rhyzer pro 50 or 45. What do you think. I am not in possition to test this setup first
    The 45 degree Rhyzer should be much closer to the Rhyzm-P, which also has a 45 degree sponge. 5 degrees in sponge hardness is a lot, considering that the softest rubbers begin around the 30 degree mark and the hardest end around 55 (European scale, not Butterfly or Chinese) - so 25 is the whole world and 5 a fifth of it.

  4. BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 192 522
    BryanY's Avatar
    BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 522 192
    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Armin
    That would be great. I am also wondering which one r45 or r50 is closer to rhyzm-p because I use r-p for about 2 years. My old setup is joola k7 and rhyzm-p both sides. Now I am planing to purhase nobilis pbo-c with rhyzer pro 50 or 45. What do you think. I am not in possition to test this setup first
    I was using Rhyzm-P on both sides and switched to Rhyzer 48 on forehand and 43 and backhand. Completely different than Rhyzm-P. A good amount more spin (and easier to create spin), way more speed, better durability, and less control.

    Rhyzer has a very soft and bouncy topsheet. “Rhyzer Pro” has a harder topsheet with wider pimples.

    Normally I would recommend Rhyzer 43 with 2.0mm sponge if you want something from JOOLA that is sort of closer to Rhyzm-P max sponge. Rhyzer speed is really quite fast.

    NOTE: I have not tried the “Rhyzer Pro” rubbers with the harder topsheet R Pro 50 seems like it would demand a high level technique, but maybe R Pro 45 is a nice compromise.

    Here are the diagrams. (I find it hard to believe that R 45 and 50 Pro are faster than R48).





    (I’m currently using the Nobilis as my blade. I like R 48, but I want to try 45 and 50. I once tried the Nobilis with Omega V Asia on forehand and liked it.).

    The Following User Likes BryanY's Post:

    YV13


  5. Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 0 9
    A
    Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 9 0
    #25
    Last minute change. Nobilis pbo-c was too expencive for me and I have desided to go for Aruna off with rhyzer pro 50 both sides. I am a litle disipointed because nobilis loocking awsome. Thank you all for great coments.
    Last edited by Armin; 09-04-2019 at 09:44 PM.

  6. Ivan10edgardo is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 3 18
    I
    Ivan10edgardo is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 18 3
    #26
    would work in a viscaria?

  7. BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 192 522
    BryanY's Avatar
    BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 522 192
    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Armin
    Last minute change. Nobilis pbo-c was too expencive for me and I have desided to go for Aruna off with rhyzer pro 50 both sides. I am a litle disipointed because nobilis loocking awsome. Thank you all for great coments.
    50 on backhand? You must have really good and strong backhand skills. (It works well for Lily Zhang).

  8. BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 192 522
    BryanY's Avatar
    BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 522 192
    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan10edgardo
    would work in a viscaria?
    Which rubber are you referring to? Rhyzer Pro 50? I think that 50 Pro, 45 Pro, and 43 would work well with a Viscaria.

    The Following User Likes BryanY's Post:

    Ivan10edgardo


  9. Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 0 9
    A
    Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 9 0
    #29
    Hi guys.


    I completely forgot to write some thoughts regarding my new setup.


    First of all, Aruna off is a great blade, so much control, speed is also great. Smooth edges and comfortable. The only thing I don't like on this blade is its color. The green color doesn't match to red at all.


    Now, the rubber (rubbers). Rhyzer Pro 50 is completely different in compares to Rhizam P (my old rubbers). Rhyzer Pro 50 is fast, but it gives you the ability to play short-game very secure and controllable. It could be because of its hardness, I don't know. In this segment it's great. Definitely forehand rubber. You can play with it with confidence in all areas around the table. It's not bouncy. Servis is great.


    The backhand is a different story. I assume it takes time to get used to it. I can't find the correct words to explain. I think it's the angle of the racket that needs to be set correctly. I need to adjust that part. And, maybe it's just too hard for the backhand.


    I forgot to mention the block. It is great for this setup. It could be the rubber or the blade I don't know but it works very well. Spiny rubbers.

  10. BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 192 522
    BryanY's Avatar
    BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 522 192
    #30

    Joola Rhyzer 50

    How do you like it for looping? I briefly got to hit with it for a minute and it's totally different than Rhyzer 48 which I'm using on forehand.

    I'd like to experiment more with Rhyzer Pro 45 / 50.
    Last edited by BryanY; 10-18-2019 at 09:47 PM.

  11. Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 0 9
    A
    Armin is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 9 0
    #31
    For me it is great. When I execute loop it accelerate so much on the other side of the table that you cant imagine. It seems that somohow sink or doesnt bounce high. I am wondering what pro players think about it. Sorry for spelling
    Last edited by Armin; 10-18-2019 at 11:51 PM.

  12. Konrad Bak is offline
    says legendary EJ
     
    Elite TTD Member 216 1,022
    K
    Konrad Bak is offline
    says legendary EJ
     
    Elite TTD Member 1,022 216

    User Info Menu


    Oct 2016
    Poland
    1,022
    216
    1534
    Read 2 Reviews
    #32
    This rubber is very hard?

  13. Saitama is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 8 13
    S
    Saitama is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 13 8

    User Info Menu


    Aug 2016
    Philippines
    13
    8
    122
    Read 0 Reviews
    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Konrad Bak
    This rubber is very hard?
    its hard but not that hard, you'll get used to it after hitting for an hour or less

  14. YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 7 29
    Y
    YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 29 7
    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    Yes, i am still waiting for Joola USA to send me the sample with the new blades also.
    Did you get Pro 45? If yes, would you please review it? Thank you!

  15. Kolev is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 70 209
    K
    Kolev is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Advanced TTD Member 209 70
    #35
    I really like the Rhyzer 50. Despite the hardnest it is very easy to play with. It seems like there is no speed limit (at least for me) and meanwhile the short game is the best I have experienced with the new generation hard rubbers. Very linear behaviour - you get what you give.
    Most important for me it is the ease I can lift backspin with. The only drawback I see is it's weightnand because of this I'm tempted to try the 2.0mm
    BTW, I use it on my 5 ply all wooden Foco Off+

    The Following User Likes Kolev's Post:

    YV13


  16. sampletext is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Established TTD Member 30 169
    S
    sampletext is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Established TTD Member 169 30
    #36
    how is the durability of the topsheet? does it fade quickly? how would this rubber compare to the mx-p 50 deg version spin speed power control and durability wise?

  17. YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 7 29
    Y
    YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 29 7
    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Armin
    Last minute change. Nobilis pbo-c was too expencive for me and I have desided to go for Aruna off with rhyzer pro 50 both sides. I am a litle disipointed because nobilis loocking awsome. Thank you all for great coments.
    Did you get new set up? If yes, how do you like Pro 50? What is your level? Thank you

  18. YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 7 29
    Y
    YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 29 7
    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    Rhyzer 50
    Weight: 71 grams uncut
    Hardness: 50 degrees
    Speed: OFF+
    Spin: Extremely High










    It has been a long time since I got hold of any Joola products. The last one I had was about 6 months ago? Since then I have not been able to test any Joola rubbers or blades. Joola USA was kind enough to send me their newest items through the kindness of megaspin.net. As expected the rubbers nowadays seem to favor the increased hardness approach with either a medium soft or medium topsheet to compensate for the sponge hardness. A few years ago, 50 degree sponges (ESN scale), are not really that prevalent except probably with the custom made rubbers of pros who wanted their rubbers hard. This is not counting the Chinese rubbers that are already available.

    Out of the box, the Joola Rhyzer 50 is hard sponged rubber with porous sponge. The sponge structure looks or is very identical to the sponge of Joola Tango PS, Rhyzers 48 and 43 which all have the pink sponges. The topsheet is in medium hardness. When you press against the rubber and sponge, it has this firmness that you can feel right away. I have had other harder rubbers but they seem to have a softer topsheet which gives them a false impression of having a soft feel. The Rhyzer 50 is also on the heavy side but this is expected as the sponge gets harder and also gets denser. It is at 71 grams uncut which is normal for rubbers of the same hardness range. The topsheet is very grippy like the the 48 and 43 sponge hardness. The topsheet has some tackiness in it and it grips the ball really good.

    I have used the Rhyzer 50 with all the 4 blades – Nobilis, Quattro, Energon and Zelebro. When I did the fh to fh drills and bh to bh drills, I could feel the Rhyzer 50’s speed but it is not as bouncy as the Rhyzer 48 probably because when you hit with the Rhyzer 48 the sponge reacts the immediately to the force applied even if you will just compress the sponge little bit whereas the Rhyzer 50 seem to have a lot of gears wherein when you use drop shots or receive short serves, the ball does not really pop up just like the Rhyzer 48. It acts like a hard Chinese rubber without the stickiness where in it is easy to drive the ball and you are able to do soft and hard shots. Overall, I am impressed by the rubber’s dynamic characteristics. The speed is off+ but it is not too bouncy. You would need to compress the sponge more to really produce a good amount of speed but the rebound effect is not as reactive as the 48 degree sponge versions. I could say the speed is a bit faster than the MX-S. It is like the MX-S but it has a harder sponge and feel. It probably offers more power on your shots.

    I thought this was not spinny but it is very spinny. It produces a lot more spin compared to the Rhyzer 48 if you do brush loops. It is as spinny as a Chinese rubber but it needs a certain level to unlock its potential. The topsheet is thin and is not soft at all. Maybe this is the reason why outright it is not as springy and you need to brush the ball to give you tons of spin. The Rhyzer 48 has properties wherein the ball sinks into the topsheet and sponge and grips the ball easily when you want the spin. With the Rhyzer 50, you need to know how to brush and contact the ball properly. I understand now that this is not for beginners although if you have the skills, you will be rewarded with a good amount of spin and power.

    What are the other things it is good for? Hard sponge with medium topsheet –awesome for smashing with this rubber! The rubber is very easy to smash with despite having a hard sponge. I think this is built for very strong shots because the rubber shines when you compress the sponge more. When you dig deeper into the sponge, you will be rewarded with this raw power that will love for your smashes or loop drives. Be warned I do not recommend it for blades that are too stiff or blades with pure carbon layers because it might be too bouncy.

    As what I have mentioned earlier, the rubber grips the ball properly and serving with it is easy as you can produce heavy underspin serves. Also, pushing balls with udnerspin is really good. The hard sponge and grippy topsheet does it all in this area. If the rubber is about 1.7mm thick, I think it can chop effectively as a chopping rubber on a defensive oversized blade.

    Overall, I am impressed more with this rubber and I like it better than the Rhyzer 48 purely because it offers a little bit more control. I would definitely use this as a forehand rubber. It has to have a godo pairing with blades. I would suggest using limba outer ply blades with this such as the Zelebro or other Joola blades such as Viva. The Nobilis would be also good with this rubber since it isn’t too hard for its feel and is not too stiff which will give you good amount of control. If you use it with an all wood limba outer ply blade, you will not have any problems bringing out the best properties of this rubber.
    Could you compare Pro 50 with Golden Tango PS please? Which one was easier to handle?Thank you
    Last edited by YV13; 01-06-2020 at 03:10 PM.

  19. BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 192 522
    BryanY's Avatar
    BryanY is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    Senior TTD Member 522 192
    #39
    I’ve used both. Golden Tango is tacky rubber completely different. The PS sponge is softer and easier to use compared to H3 or regular Golden Tango. Not quite as tacky as regular H3, but faster. Obviously way slower than Rhyzer and completely different feel.

  20. YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 7 29
    Y
    YV13 is offline
    This user has no status.
     
    TTD Member 29 7
    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by BryanY
    I’ve used both. Golden Tango is tacky rubber completely different. The PS sponge is softer and easier to use compared to H3 or regular Golden Tango. Not quite as tacky as regular H3, but faster. Obviously way slower than Rhyzer and completely different feel.
    Would you use Pro 50 (or Pro 45) on FH and GT PS on BH? Thanks!

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Create a new Topic:
Title is required.