New blade with more feeling ? (current is tibhar IV S)

Wister · Feb 26, 2019

Hello hello

My friend is not fully happy with his blade and i wanted to advice him something but i'm not sure

He plays with Tibhar IV S and FXP 1.8mm. He's rated around 800 in France and has good strokes but still he finds it a bit too fast. He's a looper that like to play a bit far from the table sometimes and even do lobbing

He was thinking to take another rubber but personally i think it's a good one and it's already not really hard (40°) and very fast. But i think his blade is not the best for him, even if it's not so fast. I think the feeling is not very good with it and maybe it lacks a little bit of dwell time. In short, i think he could play with a limba outer ply blade instead of this one that is a 5ply ayous only

Do you think that changing from ayous outer to a limber outer would change something ? If so what blades do you advice ? I was mainly thinking about Stiga Offensive classic or stiga clipper

Thank you for your help

trumpet_guy · Feb 26, 2019

Stiga Azalea Offensive: Limba outer

yogi_bear · Feb 26, 2019

Yup agree with Azalea, get the off- one.

vik2000 · Feb 26, 2019

Nittaku Violin is on sale at TT11 this week. It's one of the best blades for control, and it isn't slow either.

talbon · Feb 26, 2019

What do kids get nowadays when they start? Why not use the same setup? Get a page from the book of fast learners, if he wants to practice TT properly and progress?

Something allround like Yasaka Sweden or Yasaka Gatien + Mark V, or one of the dozens of similar setups across various brands.

Your friend even tells you that he finds his setup too fast. Why do you think he ends up a bit far from the table and lobbing? He probably doesn't feel confident in his control at the table.

It's not as fun as it sounds to play with too fast a setup. You end up missing shots all the time. You'll play much more aggressive and rip just as many balls or more with a setup that you can control.

Wister · Feb 26, 2019

Yup agree with Azalea, get the off- one.

Azalea, a question of design here but that's the idea

Nittaku Violin is on sale at TT11 this week. It's one of the best blades for control, and it isn't slow either.

For the nittaku, it's a good idea but a bit expensive

What do kids get nowadays when they start? Why not use the same setup? Get a page from the book of fast learners, if he wants to practice TT properly and progress?

Something allround like Yasaka Sweden or Yasaka Gatien + Mark V, or one of the dozens of similar setups across various brands.

Your friend even tells you that he finds his setup too fast. Why do you think he ends up a bit far from the table and lobbing? He probably doesn't feel confident in his control at the table.

It's not as fun as it sounds to play with too fast a setup. You end up missing shots all the time. You'll play much more aggressive and rip just as many balls or more with a setup that you can control.

I agree but he's not really a beginner, he don't miss a lot at all. But indeed Yasaka sweden might be good

In a way his blade is good. I just feel he could have something with more dwell time / feeling so i'm looking for a limba blade

Lula · Feb 26, 2019

If he plays far away from the table he proably want a slower blade there the ball stays longer on the racket and there the arc is a little bit higher. Atleast i think this is how slow blades is.

lVegita · Feb 26, 2019

Wister said:
Azalea, a question of design here but that's the idea

What is it that people don't like about Azalea design? I find it such a good looking blade, would love to try one.

Anyways, I heard Korbel is a nice feeling limba outer kinda cheap blade.

Wister · Feb 27, 2019

If he plays far away from the table he proably want a slower blade there the ball stays longer on the racket and there the arc is a little bit higher. Atleast i think this is how slow blades is.

Yes indeed a higher arc could be good. Btw maybe he could achieves that by using FXS instead of FXP ?

What is it that people don't like about Azalea design? I find it such a good looking blade, would love to try one.

Anyways, I heard Korbel is a nice feeling limba outer kinda cheap blade.

I agree it is good looking but it seems to have been designed with a female audience in mind. Especially the all around one have a very colorful flashy logo i find. Btw i'm always surprised to see this blade this much advised when almost every askers dismiss it for the same reason.. I don't mean to be polemic, it seems to be a good blade anyways

So right now i'm thinking : Offensive classic or yasaka sweden, Korbel or Clipper, why not also try FXS instead of FXP

Thank you all for your help, and if anyone knows some limba blades around off- or maybe a bit slower it's still welcomed

mart1nandersson · Feb 27, 2019

The Primorac Off- is a bit slower than the Korbel but with quite similar feeling.

The Clipper is a fast blade. Way harder to control than the other blades that you list.

yogi_bear · Feb 27, 2019

Azalea is an upgraded offensive classic. It has more bounce and the feel is so good. It has the feel among Stiga blades today imho.

yogi_bear · Feb 27, 2019

Btw, do not judge the Azalea's design on the way it plays... Once you have gotten hold of it, you will love the blade.

hipnotic · Feb 27, 2019

The Waldner Senso Carbon is a limba outer blade with nice feeling and relatively cheap. If he wants more speed in the future just upgrade the rubbers.

FruitLoop · Feb 27, 2019

Applegren Allplay for me felt the best of the "classic" 5 ply blades.

The Tibhar IV S is non existent outside France and yet seems to be THE reference blade there. That was interesting to me!

lVegita · Feb 27, 2019

Wister said:
I agree it is good looking but it seems to have been designed with a female audience in mind.

It was, actually.
On its description it says it was “developed together with Japanese female players”.

Konrad Bak · Feb 27, 2019

Tibhar chilla
Palio energy 03
Allround classic
Allround evolution
K5+
IV L has softer feeling

yogi_bear · Feb 27, 2019

Once you go past the color, you will appreciate the blade.

Wister · Mar 14, 2019

Hello,

I still haven't found a good blade for my friend and i might need some other advices

He plays Tibhar IV S and he likes my OSP virtuoso Off-, so i was thinking about
- Butterfly Primorac or butterly korbel
- Tibhar samsonov alpha
- Tibhar stratus powerwood

Which one is the closest from OSP virtuoso ? what is your opinion about these blades ? In general i'm looking for a limba 5 ply, not too thick and with good dwell time/feeling

Thanks

FruitLoop · Mar 14, 2019

All are great. Stratus powerwood and Korbel are faster, Primorac and Alpha slower. Never used an OSP but TSPW has the least vibrations and is the fastest. Primorac I would say is the slowest with most vibrations. Can't go wrong with any of those. All limba, flexy and good feeling.

Wister · Mar 14, 2019

Thanks

So in short can we say that thinner = more flexible = more vibration = more feeling ?

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