World Table Tennis Championships 2019

FruitLoop · Apr 26, 2019

suds79 said:
Fair enough. But his point was that he felt they did it half heatedly and I think it's a little ridiculous to expect a lot more of them outside of just doing it which they do.

I don't like those half hearted high five barely touch things they do either. Seems disrespectful like you don't want to shake their hands properly.

JST · Apr 26, 2019

You simply must love this game! What a decider! #AN

suds79 · Apr 26, 2019

FruitLoop said:
I have never played a sport where it isn't expected. Including basketball. But maybe it's different in Europe. Certainly every single individual sport it's expected. Can you name one that isn't?

See my last point about that they do it.

This topic got started in that the person didn't like the celebrating after a win. The going to celebrating with the coach 1st. The half hearted handshake. He didn't like how they handshake which I think is silly. Just doing the act is good enough in my book.

That was the topic. I would agree with just about anyone that you should give the handshake. That's not really what is at topic here the way i see it.

Atas Newton · Apr 26, 2019

My prediction: Mattias Falck 4-1 An Jaehyun.

ping fun · Apr 26, 2019

Atas Newton said:
Guys, what is this you're discussing? Is anyone watching the match? I'm starting to believe the Wang Hao theory. I think in the final An Jaehyun will remove his mask and reveal that he was Wang Hao all this time, returning to test Ma Long in one last WTTC.

Haha ...and Ma long removes his mask and reveals he's zhang jike

NextLevel · Apr 26, 2019

suds79 said:
See my last point about that they do it.

This topic got started in that the person didn't like the celebrating after a win. The going to celebrating with the coach 1st. The half hearted handshake.

That was the topic. I would agree with just about anyone that you should give the handshake. That's not really what is at topic here the way i see it.

We are on the same page. The handshake is treated in just about every sport I know the way it is treated in TT.

The other thing is that many cultures don't shake hands when greeting unless they have absorbed Anglo Saxon culture. This also gets missed in these things.

No need to enforce the exchange of sweaty hands per se. And no need to enforce anything more than routine civility amongst competitors. The ones who are friends like Gauzy and Falck can exchange words or do something different. There is a brotherhood of sorts on tour.

Atas Newton · Apr 26, 2019

ping fun said:
Haha ...and Ma long remove his mask and reveal he's zhang jike

and then Wang Hao removes his mask yet again and reveals HE is Ma Long. And we have the Ma Long - Zhang Jike WTTC final everyone's been dreaming of.

FruitLoop · Apr 26, 2019

Anglo Saxon culture? I do not believe that is the origination of this custom. I don't disagree that TT is no worse than other sports, it's mainly the younger kids that do it half heartedly. Older players tend not to.

TTSuperFan · Apr 26, 2019

btw, only now I noticed Jeong Sangeun , Lim Jonghoon and Cho Seungmin weren't in the tournament.

ping fun · Apr 26, 2019

Atas Newton said:
and then Wang Hao removes his mask yet again and reveals HE is Ma Long. And we have the Ma Long - Zhang Jike WTTC final everyone's been dreaming of.

Yeah So cool . Table tennis world has missed that Final .

zeio · Apr 26, 2019

Ultimate dark Hor(se) indeed.

zeio said:
An Jaehyun has taken out WCT, Moregard, Habesohn

Harimoto next?

Ultimate dark Hor(se) of the tournament.

zeio said:
An Jaehyun, 19. Took out WCT and Moregard. Habesohn next?

zeio said:
Not really. You don't need a counter game plan for that. If you've followed the scene long enough, you'd notice that South Korean players are among the streakiest, yet have produced many if not the most powerful upsets in memory. Many of them share one common trait - high risk, high reward all-out step-around. Notable players from other countries are Gatien at WTTC 1993, Schlager at WTTC 2003 and Aruna at World Cup 2014 and Rio Olympics. Fang Bo at WTTC 2015 is another. The catch here is the high demand on form and stamina. That's why you see these players deviate a lot. But when that condition is met, this tactical style is the most disruptive. Coupled with the intense pressure, it's very hard to deal with and recover from.

Now the problem is you can never be certain when it'll be coming ahead of time. In the same manner, the player who chooses to play like this will also find it hard to get started. Ito is the latest example.

FruitLoop · Apr 26, 2019

I wonder if Ma Long secretly wants to lose this match to conserve energy. LJK might be thinking the same...

ping fun · Apr 26, 2019

The men's Double has started . The 2nd match will be more interesting to watch with countries that didnt have any medal in WTTC in their history . It will be nice if any of them play in final and have at least silver .

suds79 · Apr 26, 2019

FruitLoop said:
Anglo Saxon culture? I do not believe that is the origination of this custom. I don't disagree that TT is no worse than other sports, it's mainly the younger kids that do it half heartedly. Older players tend not to.

I'm probably making a whole deal out of nothing here as I think we're all pro handshakes but I don't buy that half hearted handshakes come just from young players. It's just normal reaction of disappointment when you're competing 1v1.

But go to this video of Ma Long Vs Vlad from just the other day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0HAlbsEZ8&t=339s

9:40 is when the match is over. IMO Vlad's body language and expression on his face couldn't be more 1/2 hearted and I think he's disappointed.

So i think most, if not all players do this. And I think how he handled it was perfectly normal & fine. I wouldn't expect anything more out of him than what he did.

Atas Newton · Apr 26, 2019

ping fun said:
The men's Double has started . The 2nd match will be more interesting to watch with countries that didnt have any medal in WTTC in their history . It will be nice if any of them play in final and have at least silver .

I'll be cheering for Ionescu and Robles precisely for this reason. Portugal has Freitas, when will Spain ever have another shot at gold?

zeio · Apr 26, 2019

Atas Newton said:
I'll be cheering for Ionescu and Robles precisely for this reason. Portugal has Freitas, when will Spain ever have another shot at gold?

It'd be amazing to have a table tennis version of Marin.

Opinari · Apr 26, 2019

With regards to Jeong Sangeun, Lim Jonghoon and Cho Seungmin, good point - how were the Korean players selected again?

Wasn't it some sort of brutal giant round robin? Maybe there's something to that after all...

zeio · Apr 26, 2019

Opinari said:
With regards to Jeong Sangeun, Lim Jonghoon and Cho Seungmin, good point - how were the Korean players selected again?

Wasn't it some sort of brutal giant round robin? Maybe there's something to that after all...

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-for-WTTC-2019&p=264798&viewfull=1#post264798

langel · Apr 26, 2019

NextLevel said:
The other thing is that many cultures don't shake hands when greeting unless they have absorbed Anglo Saxon culture.

Handshaking has nothing to do with the anglo-saxon culture.
In fact during the midle of the medieval centuries the anglo-saxon culture used arm-grabing rather than handshaking.
Handshaking is much older than the anglo-saxon culture, and it it is wellknown by the more ancient cultures.

Dexiosis

NextLevel · Apr 26, 2019

langel said:
Handshaking has nothing to do with the anglo-saxon culture.
In fact during the midle of the medieval centuries the anglo-saxon culture used arm-grabing rather than handshaking.
Handshaking is much older than the anglo-saxon culture, and it it is wellknown by the more ancient cultures.

Dexiosis

My point is that there are many cultures where they don't shake hands, no matter whether I should have added Slavic or other cultures to my description. Just keep that in mind. The Japanese usually just nod or bow to each other, for example.

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