Japan Women's Race to Tokyo 2020 Singles

Jacky Kwok · Dec 16, 2019

I believe Korean men’s selection is quite clear. JYS, LSS and JWJ will be selected. LSS will probably play XD with JJH if they can be qualified. So MS will probably be JYS and JWJ.

For Korean women’s team, JJH is the core and will play team, WS and XD. I guess SHW will be selected for team and single as well due to her WR. Then they will need someone to play double with JJH for the team event. YHE is the obvious choice due to her experience and long-term WD partnership with JJH. But somehow I want SYB to be selected instead.

NextLevel · Dec 16, 2019

Sali said:
I do not but they rather have no chance to be second seeded like germany.
Although they can meet Japan in earlier round but if they not take lim jonghoon I doubt they have chance especially with LSS who doesn't play top level for a long time.

Not sure why - Jang Woojin, Lee Sangsu and Jeoung Youngsik can be above Dima.and Ovtcharov and you never know how healthy Boll will be. I agree it is more likely Germany will be on top, but Korea is dangerous any time.

Sali · Dec 16, 2019

NextLevel said:
Not sure why - Jang Woojin, Lee Sangsu and Jeoung Youngsik can be above Dima.and Ovtcharov and you never know how healthy Boll will be. I agree it is more likely Germany will be on top, but Korea is dangerous any time.

For me jwj is very unstable if you look his this year matches. He lost many matches to lower ranked players.
JYS is also unstable but this year od much better.
LSS is getting worse and worse.
Of course they can be dangerous like england and Sweden can be.

Shine · Dec 16, 2019

Takkyu_wa_inochi said:
Miyazaki is kind of being the boss at JTTA for deciding the team, although he said all coaches opinions will be considered.

Regarding women's team, indeed he said that the team will be built to beat China (meaning they are optimistic they can win other teams easily - which i think is the case). 2nd seed is guaranteed even without Hirano. He said they are basically facing 3 choices: (1) Ito to play 2 singles, choose a right handed player to team up with Ishikawa for doubles, and the logical choice is Hirano (2) choose Ishikawa as an ace to play 2 singles, and then choose a left handed player - Hayata - to play doubles with Ito (3) choose Sato to play 2 singles and let Ito play doubles with Ishikawa.

Regarding Men's team, the ambitions are more modest, they want to build a team to get a medal [meaning they are being realistic about their chances of challenging China]. For that purpose, it is important to stay seeded #2, which is possible only if Mizutani is being selected. We know from the man himself he is not very motivated to play at the Olympics, but he will do his job for the country. Miyazaki then said that if the 2nd was guaranteed actually it would make sense to let play the right-handed Yoshimura with Niwa in doubles and let Harimoto play 2 singles - instead of selecting Mizutani.

And yes, they will decide on January 6th. I don't know the reason but they are committing to that date.

He finally praised Ito, and said often her matches against Chinese players are often decided by a narrow margin, its often just the question of being a bit more lucky on a net or edge

He'd better put his hopes down as regards Sato playing two singles as an option, Only Ding Ning, Wang Yidi and Wang Manyu every other time struggles with her, Shasha, CM, Liu Shiwen beat her without two much problems, And LGL was saying in that post TWC video about Ding's role to play DOUBLES in the final being hindered by the injury, so there was no plan for her to play singles against Japan or so it seems to me, Shasha played Sato in the ATTC team final and if not for her forcing things she should have had a 3-0 victory but 3-1 is not bad either, So it's only against Ding that the Sato plan can work, And for what it's worth, the CNT can engage Ding is some special chopper practice and going into the Olympics, she suddenly meets Sato and wins with ease lol, Then what?

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Dec 16, 2019

yeh he did mention the Sato option but i think it was more to put it on the table and then dismiss it. thats what can be implied a bit by the way he speaks and explains the whole thing. At least thats how i perceived it

NextLevel · Dec 16, 2019

Takkyu_wa_inochi said:
yeh he did mention the Sato option but i think it was more to put it on the table and then dismiss it. thats what can be implied a bit by the way he speaks and explains the whole thing. At least thats how i perceived it

I think he just wants to give the impression that he didn't just pick the team with his eyes closed. We all know the team already. The top 3 guys have a year to fix it and so do the women.

Jacky Kwok · Dec 17, 2019

Agree they won’t pick Sato. They don’t even want to try this option during the TWC when playing against some weaker teams in the group stage and kept Sato on the bench the whole time.

driversbeat · Dec 17, 2019

They should drop Suh. Jeon and Yang for doubles and Choi or Shin as their third player.

daejoons · Dec 17, 2019

Shine said:
He'd better put his hopes down as regards Sato playing two singles as an option, Only Ding Ning, Wang Yidi and Wang Manyu every other time struggles with her, Shasha, CM, Liu Shiwen beat her without two much problems, And LGL was saying in that post TWC video about Ding's role to play DOUBLES in the final being hindered by the injury, so there was no plan for her to play singles against Japan or so it seems to me, Shasha played Sato in the ATTC team final and if not for her forcing things she should have had a 3-0 victory but 3-1 is not bad either, So it's only against Ding that the Sato plan can work, And for what it's worth, the CNT can engage Ding is some special chopper practice and going into the Olympics, she suddenly meets Sato and wins with ease lol, Then what?

In addition to this. Sato cannot play two singles I thought. She would have to come in as the third player since she didnt finish in the top 2, and the third player always has to play doubles during an olympic team match. Meaning Sato couldnt play two singles.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Dec 17, 2019

@daejoons

you are wrong. its been already all explained here.

driversbeat · Dec 17, 2019

What are the rules for reserve players in mixed doubles? If say Mima gets injured, is Ishikawa or Hirano paired with Mizutani instead? Or does a reserve pair (Hina/Harimoto) automatically replace them? Or do they just forfeit their spot altogether?

Vlad Celler · Dec 17, 2019

driversbeat said:
What are the rules for reserve players in mixed doubles? If say Mima gets injured, is Ishikawa or Hirano paired with Mizutani instead? Or does a reserve pair (Hina/Harimoto) automatically replace them? Or do they just forfeit their spot altogether?

Yes, it is interesting...

silvershamaa · Dec 17, 2019

Sali said:
For me jwj is very unstable if you look his this year matches. He lost many matches to lower ranked players.
JYS is also unstable but this year od much better.
LSS is getting worse and worse.
Of course they can be dangerous like england and Sweden can be.

It's certainly not the case that they simply CAN be dangerous like england and sweden can be. They are ALWAYS dangerous and a solid team, unlike england and sweden, the potential levels of all their top players are uncomparable when all of them are well prepared. Just look at the last 2 WTTTCs and the recent World Team Cup.

Korea played China in the final of the world cup and won a doubles game (JYS and LSS vs Xu Xin/LJK), after beating Chinese Taipei 3-0. England lost to Chinese Taipei 0-3, and Sweden lost to the USA in the groups.

zeio · Dec 17, 2019

driversbeat said:
What are the rules for reserve players in mixed doubles? If say Mima gets injured, is Ishikawa or Hirano paired with Mizutani instead? Or does a reserve pair (Hina/Harimoto) automatically replace them? Or do they just forfeit their spot altogether?

No idea since the XD is a new event.

For previous editions, a team may participate with 2 players if the 3rd player is injured, ill or disqualified. Replacement must be made 2 hours before the start the next match. It appears no replacement is allowed for singles event.

https://web.archive.org/web/2016081.../Regulations/Rio2016_Specific_Regulations.pdf

zeio · Dec 17, 2019

Sali said:
I do not but they rather have no chance to be second seeded like germany.
Although they can meet Japan in earlier round but if they not take lim jonghoon I doubt they have chance especially with LSS who doesn't play top level for a long time.

Double faceplam...

In case it's not apparent to you, every country is aiming for the XD event. LSS/JJH is the only pair to have pushed XX/LSW to the brink of death in WTTC(3-4) and ATTC(2-3).

The lineup at the TWC already makes it clear. Interpolate the rest on your own.

zeio · Dec 17, 2019

Don't worry about what Miyazaki said on TV.

He has to remain unbiased and present all options. Well, not all as Kato was left out but the co-host mistook her for Sato. His stance has already been made very clear, that there must be a certain mechanism for team selection.

BTW, the final episode of the NHK documentary series of the selection race will air next Sunday. Stay tuned.

zeio · Dec 17, 2019

https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2019/12/15/0012961042.shtml

　伊藤は１－９といきなり劣勢となった第１ゲームを大逆転で先取したが、過去０勝２敗の世界１位の壁にはね返された。混合ダブルス決勝から約２時間しか休憩がなく、試合中には腰に痛みも感じたという。

　大会中は短時間睡眠を強いられる日もあり「元気がなかった。自分が勝手にストレスを感じてしまった」と疲労困ぱい。「１９歳だが（体力的には）たぶん３０歳くらいだと思う。疲れを取りながら頑張りたい」と自嘲しつつ、「五輪中もどれだけ寝られるか分からない。どんな状態でも勝てるように地力を上げたい」と誓った。

Ito pre-empted the first game, which suddenly became inferior with 1-9, with a major reversal, but was hit back to the world's top wall with 0 wins and 2 losses. He had a break only about 2 hours after the mixed doubles final and felt pain in his waist during the match.

“There was a day when I was forced to sleep for a short time during the tournament,” I was not feeling well. “I'm 19 years old but I think I'm about 30 years old. I want to do my best while getting tired,” he said, “I do n’t know how much I can sleep during the Olympics. I vowed.

Mytoman · Dec 17, 2019

zeio said:
No idea since the XD is a new event.

For previous editions, a team may participate with 2 players if the 3rd player is injured, ill or disqualified. Replacement must be made 2 hours before the start the next match. It appears no replacement is allowed for singles event.

https://web.archive.org/web/2016081.../Regulations/Rio2016_Specific_Regulations.pdf

Teams are allocated to the NOCs by number (1 team and 2 athletes). The remaining single places and mix places are allocated to the athletes. For me this means that it is not up to the NOC to replace an injured player in singles or an injured pair in mix. The place will go to the next qualified player or pair. (I think it might be difficult to find the next qualified mix double pair that complies with the regulations close to the games. They would have to be entered for the games, and even in the team if the nations has one. I dont think the nation would use it's P athlete as a late replacement for mix, and then losing the original player for the team).

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Dec 17, 2019

it is well known that Mizutani wear no pants (no-pan !)

Here are Harimoto pants

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B073VJ4N1H/

CHOREI !!! チョレイ！！！

Vlad Celler · Dec 18, 2019

JTTA
The composition of the Japanese team for the tournament Germany Open (January 2020)

http://www.jtta.or.jp/tournament/tabid/125/rptid/582/Default.aspx

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