Japan Women's Race to Tokyo 2020 Singles

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>top-15 players from the relevant 2019 ITTF World Tour Standings; and
>one Host Exemption selected by the relevant Host City Partner.

Host Exemption:
• Each Host City Partner will select one (1) male and one (1) female player to participate in the relevant T2DIAMOND 2019 event as Host Exemptions.
• Each Host Exemption must be ranked in the top-50 of the ITTF World Rankings at the time of selection, and must not have qualified to compete in the relevant T2DIAMOND 2019 event from the World Tour Standings.

1) it’s still only top 15 players,
2) Makes no mention that this selected ‘Host Exemption’ needs to be from the Host City(a Malaysian in this case), just that they have the privilege to select one, from the top 50 who hasn’t qualified. Read ‘Host Exemption’ as wild card. Szocs was the 2018 champion from the host city, but didn't qualify, so they picked her.

At least that’s how I read into the document.
(Or as Tempest says ‘Host Exemption selected’ explicitly exempts the selected from being OF the host.)

In that case, Ovtcharov should've been left out if we go by the book. But like apacible said, automatic qualification for the defending T2 Champion(Boll and Szocs, respectively), or wild card for that matter, is never mentioned in any official documents and then that Facebook post on Jun 11 pulled a deus ex machina and voila, Szocs is in. As if they had an "oh, shit" moment.
 
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thank....
(but I did not understand why Ishikawa is mentioned there ....:( Is this the first Diamond?)
 
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China is officially interfering with Japan's internal selection for Tokyo 2020.

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Just took a quick look. Could be wrong. They're neck and neck if you count 4 events only.

Niwa
2018/4 2018 WTTC 750pts
2019/3 Qatar Opn 900
2019/4 2019 WTTC 1500
2019/4 Asian Cup 1170
2019/5 China Opn 900
Subtotal 5220

Mizutani
2018/4 2018 WTTC 1500pts
2019/3 Qatar Opn 1125
2019/4 2019 WTTC 900
2019/5 China Opn 900
Subtotal 4425
 
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LOL. But now that Ishikawa and Kato are going, Ito's first round exit in the Japan Open lost her what could have been a big lead in the points race. It's still to early to say anything yet. The singles spots are still very much up for grabs.

My opinion-tournaments Diamond T2 will not help the Japanese ...China will not allow them to go further than the quarter finals in these tournaments ....
By January 2020, Ishikawa, Ito, Hirano will be in the ITTF rating at 7-10 places at best ....And with a noticeable gap in points compared with the first six Chinese women .....
 
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My opinion-tournaments Diamond T2 will not help the Japanese ...China will not allow them to go further than the quarter finals in these tournaments ....
By January 2020, Ishikawa, Ito, Hirano will be in the ITTF rating at 7-10 places at best ....And with a noticeable gap in points compared with the first six Chinese women .....
This thread is not concerned with how JNT compares with CNT (or any other NT) in WR, or how well any other non-Japanese players are doing, but Japan's INTERNAL competition to get to the 2 top spots for the singles via WR points. ;-)
(BTW, looks like CNT is only sending 3 out of the 6 qualified men to the first T2 :ML, XX, FZD.)
 
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To nullify the effect of Ishikawa's entry, Ito will have to:

reach the final(800 pts) if Ishikawa loses in R16(400 pts);
win the T2(1000 pts) if Ishikawa reaches QF(500 pts) or finishes 4th(600 pts).

Ishikawa will be back in the race if Ito finishes lower than her. Must be fuming right now.
 
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Do you mean the race for the position in the ITTF rating by January 2020?
Apologies for offtopic ...
In the ITTF rating for July, Ishikawa still holds the 7th place ...But here in the ranking for August ....

In July, two tournaments - Korea and Australia ....Where is the entire Chinese women's top declared ....
Minus 3600 points will be deducted from Ishikawa (7/2018)...Given that the reserves she has are very modest, and are unlikely to be replenished in Korea and Australia ....
Ito has a similar situation, although the upcoming deduction is still less - 3150 ...

Additional points on Diamond in Malaysia Ishikawa just will not help .....(Is that Chinese women in general will not ...)
 
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I fully agree with this .....:(
And of course China is interested in the fact that this is exactly what happened ....:mad:
 
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Do you mean the race for the position in the ITTF rating by January 2020?
Apologies for offtopic ...
In the ITTF rating for July, Ishikawa still holds the 7th place ...But here in the ranking for August ....

In July, two tournaments - Korea and Australia ....Where is the entire Chinese women's top declared ....
Minus 3600 points will be deducted from Ishikawa (7/2018)...Given that the reserves she has are very modest, and are unlikely to be replenished in Korea and Australia ....
Ito has a similar situation, although the upcoming deduction is still less - 3150 ...

Additional points on Diamond in Malaysia Ishikawa just will not help .....(Is that Chinese women in general will not ...)

The point reserve doesn't matter. Seeding is hardly affected. Ishikawa and Hirano have a huge World Cup buffer that Ito don't enjoy. The T2 is now serving as Ishikawa's lifeline. These bonus points could potentially end Ito's run.
 
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This thread is not concerned with how JNT compares with CNT (or any other NT) in WR, or how well any other non-Japanese players are doing, but Japan's INTERNAL competition to get to the 2 top spots for the singles via WR points. ;-)
(BTW, looks like CNT is only sending 3 out of the 6 qualified men to the first T2 :ML, XX, FZD.)

I guess that closes the discussion of who are the candidates for men's singles on the men's side. Who did the CNT send on the women's side? That also says a lot.
 
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The point reserve doesn't matter. Seeding is hardly affected. Ishikawa and Hirano have a huge World Cup buffer that Ito don't enjoy. The T2 is now serving as Ishikawa's lifeline. These bonus points could potentially end Ito's run.

I agree with you ... Diamond as a lifeline for Ishikawa .....And this is very good for China ....
However, the World Cup results will also be updated? How else Ishikawa and Hirano will play ...
 
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I agree with you ... Diamond as a lifeline for Ishikawa .....And this is very good for China ....
However, the World Cup results will also be updated? How else Ishikawa and Hirano will play ...

Those don't matter here. What matters here is that China don't want Ito to play singles. They want Ishikawa. Once she qualifies for the singles, Japan will be forced to choose Ito over Hayata for the team. That will essentially take out the strongest pair for singles(Ito, Hirano), team(Ito/Hirano/Hayata), and mixed doubles(Harimoto/Hayata). 3 birds with 1 stone.
 
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