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.....JNT Player Stats 2019
Ito - serve-n-attack, the shorter the point, the higher the threat/risk
Hirano - reckless speedy exchanges, took everyone by surprise, too fast for her own good
Hayata - best of both worlds, powerful rallies and agile footwork a big plus
Ishikawa - jack of all trades, master of none, AKA "Please Retire"
amazing !
(Damn it ... Well, I just feel sorry for her to tears ......God ... If you really exist ... Well, why did you give Ishikawa second place ?!)
Ito - serve-n-attack, the shorter the point, the higher the threat/risk
Hirano - reckless speedy exchanges, took everyone by surprise, too fast for her own good
Hayata - best of both worlds, powerful rallies and agile footwork a big plus
Ishikawa - jack of all trades, master of none, AKA "Please Retire"
amazing !
(Damn it ... Well, I just feel sorry for her to tears ......God ... If you really exist ... Well, why did you give Ishikawa second place ?!)
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2020/1
C.M. 16265
SUN Yingsha 15460
ITO Mima 14720
L.S.W. 14445
WANG Manyu 14130
Z.Y.L. 12990
D.N. 12670
F.T. 11100
ISHIKAWA Kasumi 10950
CHENG I-Ching 10915
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11- HIRANO Miu 10815
12- CHEN Xingtong 10325
13- Yidi 9910
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17-SATO Hitomi 8550
18-HE Zhuojia 8480
19-SZOCS Bernadet 7910
20-SOLJA Petrissia 7885
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21-DIAZ Adriana 7820
22-KATO Miyu 7585
23-HAYATA Hina 7520
C.M. 16265
SUN Yingsha 15460
ITO Mima 14720
L.S.W. 14445
WANG Manyu 14130
Z.Y.L. 12990
D.N. 12670
F.T. 11100
ISHIKAWA Kasumi 10950
CHENG I-Ching 10915
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11- HIRANO Miu 10815
12- CHEN Xingtong 10325
13- Yidi 9910
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17-SATO Hitomi 8550
18-HE Zhuojia 8480
19-SZOCS Bernadet 7910
20-SOLJA Petrissia 7885
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21-DIAZ Adriana 7820
22-KATO Miyu 7585
23-HAYATA Hina 7520
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Hirano is really following the footsteps of her idol LSW. I still remember how LSW's speed was a double-edged sword sometimes. Maybe 10 years down the road, Hirano will win the WTTC Women's Singles if she continues mimicking.
Also, I was curious how far along did T2 interfere with the WR so I deducted all these bonuses (using Vlad's calculations):
Chen Meng 15055-15265
Liu Shiwen 14445
Sun Yingsha 13960
Mima Ito 13520
Wang Manyu 12630-12840
Zhu Yuling 11590
Ding Ning 11470
Feng Tianwei 10200
Kasumi Ishikawa 10150
Cheng I-Ching 10115
Miu Hirano 10015
Chen Xingtong 9825
Wang Yidi 9510
He Zhuojia 9355
LSW is probably the biggest victim of T2 then it seems, dropping to 4th in January with Ito before her. If CNT does intend to field the two Singles from among the trio of CM, SYS and LSW, the former two will likely be picked to avoid the possibility of being drawn into the same half now that separation by association is not guaranteed.
Also, I was curious how far along did T2 interfere with the WR so I deducted all these bonuses (using Vlad's calculations):
Chen Meng 15055-15265
Liu Shiwen 14445
Sun Yingsha 13960
Mima Ito 13520
Wang Manyu 12630-12840
Zhu Yuling 11590
Ding Ning 11470
Feng Tianwei 10200
Kasumi Ishikawa 10150
Cheng I-Ching 10115
Miu Hirano 10015
Chen Xingtong 9825
Wang Yidi 9510
He Zhuojia 9355
LSW is probably the biggest victim of T2 then it seems, dropping to 4th in January with Ito before her. If CNT does intend to field the two Singles from among the trio of CM, SYS and LSW, the former two will likely be picked to avoid the possibility of being drawn into the same half now that separation by association is not guaranteed.
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Racketgate? Austriagate? OTHgate?
Ishikawa and Niwa should be grateful to Miyasaki, who is a technical consultant of the T2 in charge of all the rules and proposed the 24-minute rule and 1 serve per turn etc.
pongfugrasshopper will be glad to find out there's at least 1 blogger from Japan who agrees with him. This entry was back in September.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/nt_tabletennisclub/archives/53801299.html
The ITTF world ranking system has unfair elements.
(1) A player who participated in the World Championship can maintain the World Championship points even after one year until the next World Championship.
(2) Players who participated in T2 diamonds will receive additional points for the 8 games.
How do you incorporate ITTF world rankings with such unfair elements into the Olympic selection criteria?
There are many people who have doubts. That said, it is also a problem that the development headquarters of the Japan Table Tennis Association decides the representative on its own!
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After missing out in the singles, in an interview, Mizutani expresses that the decision of representatives is "unrelated to my efforts."
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2019/12/14/0012959187.shtml
Mizutani, who missed the singles ticket for four consecutive tournaments from the 2008 Beijing Olympics, said, “Because it was a tough situation before the tournament, the feelings have been organized. "I accepted the result with the expression that I had done it." However, there was an aspect that missed the representative not only by ability but also by “bad luck”, “The thing that was not related to my efforts (the representative) was decided ... I have to accept it, but there is a little regret there” He also expressed his remorse.
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Since the final point difference between the two was “375 points”, the position was reversed if there was at least “400 points” that should have been obtained at least in the second game. Mizutani confessed that the timing of the fall in the past year was “When the T2 (Round 2) was gone? “If you have 400 points (obtained just by entering the race), you have been present this time (in the Olympics), and there is a reversal in the previous T2 (Round 3) because Niwa was (in advance). “It ’s a bit of regret that I ’ve decided that it has nothing to do with my efforts.”
Although it is a result theory, it can be said that the fierce representative battle was settled “out of the court”. The players had a bad aftertaste now, as the players struggled for a year to fight for representation.
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/cm/main?d=20191214-00000043-dal-spo
The association and the association are not thinking about players.
It is completely unfair.
The point system for fairness is causing unfairness.
Isn't that an organization that has to be considered by the association?
Was it okay to make a direct confrontation between 2nd and 3rd? I think Mizutani thinks that this Olympics is the last chance and hopes.
I couldn't get 400 points because I couldn't get out.
When I said that, even though Ishikawa was a female player who was not qualified for the first round of T2, a lot of Chinese players missed out and got 400 points. In the end, this score was the same as for boys.
Unlike badminton, the selection of the Olympics was decided by the Japan Table Tennis Association, so T2 points should have been excluded from the beginning. Even the low ranking players are like a ready race from the beginning if the number of tours is limited and T2 points are added.
Basically, it can be said that there is a problem with this Japanese selection system in terms of the expression “the body is tattered” that Takaki Niwa said in December. Japanese players have traveled around the world almost all year round. On the other hand, the top players in China are in the form of taking rest as a result of the appropriate replacement of two military players.
However, even Chinese players now have a leg and waist breakdown in Ma Ryu, polite, and Liu poetry, and Huh Shin has been hurting his wrist in the game.
Clearly, this is evidence that players need to be well cared for in harsh practice.
The plains and Ishikawa in Japan are just overcrowded with the return of dragonflies from North American.
By the way, it is said that the selection method of Chinese players is not based on ranking, but I want to know the details of how it is done.
The selection by this ranking raises the problem that only 135 points are different from the Ishikawa Plain. Also question the selection method of the third person.
Is it appropriate to choose players with a difference of thousands of points?
However, the doubles on the left and left of Niwa and Mizutani were so bad that they hurt their heads.
I didn't have a left-and-right combination so far,
I do n’t think it ’s going to be a level. After Rio, the relationship between Niwa Mizutani has a variety of backgrounds, and it would be quite awkward to join a doubles group.
However, if you exclude Mizutani in the team battle, you will be overtaken by Germany in the team rank,
The draw will be greatly affected. It is very troubled with it.
The calculation method of the table tennis world ranking system does not represent pure ability. In particular, the current calculation method introduced at the beginning of last year has become more prominent and is determined only by the recent tour ranking, regardless of who you have played against. In other words, it is strongly influenced by the element of luck. Nonetheless, I don't know why it is going to be a selection criterion.
For example, if you remove only participation points and bonus points from the calculation method of the world ranking system in the past, and use only points that are calculated only by winning and losing, you should be able to evaluate your ability unrelated to luck.
It seems that the association thought that criticism would be caused if it was put in the world ranking. I want the association to think more about not only to get rid of injustice, but also to choose the players who can really win the Olympics.
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Sour grapes. Koki Niwa had to beat the same Hugo Calderano that Muzutani couldn't beat as part of his effort.
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I don’t think it is CNT’s intention. After all, they can still withdraw WCQ from T2 for whatever reason to let Niwa enter T2. No need to suspend WCQ for 3 months.
What I found interesting is that since WCQ threw his racket, he got punished by CNT and withdrew from T2 Singapore. This led to Niwa as a replacement for T2 Singapore which would gain Niwa at least 400 points (eventually he got 500 points).
Now looking back at the final WR, Mizutani would have been ahead of Niwa if Niwa didn’t enter T2 Singapore. So that’s something purely luck.
What I found interesting is that since WCQ threw his racket, he got punished by CNT and withdrew from T2 Singapore. This led to Niwa as a replacement for T2 Singapore which would gain Niwa at least 400 points (eventually he got 500 points).
Now looking back at the final WR, Mizutani would have been ahead of Niwa if Niwa didn’t enter T2 Singapore. So that’s something purely luck.
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The thing is whenever T2 is involved, CNT's action/reaction/decision has always influenced the JNT's selection race in some form or way.
The reason Ishikawa and Kato made the T2 Malaysia was because of the Chinese National Championships. Keep in mind ML and LSW told the media that they needed the T2 points for the Olympics.
T2 Haikou was cancelled because they couldn't "get the necessary permit" after ML/FZD lost to LYJ and ZYL won in T2 Malaysia. Around the same time, QZJ and LS told the media they were very unhappy about the T2 for "kidnapping" their players.
But in the end, China sent all "eligible players" to T2 Singapore...
The reason Ishikawa and Kato made the T2 Malaysia was because of the Chinese National Championships. Keep in mind ML and LSW told the media that they needed the T2 points for the Olympics.
T2 Haikou was cancelled because they couldn't "get the necessary permit" after ML/FZD lost to LYJ and ZYL won in T2 Malaysia. Around the same time, QZJ and LS told the media they were very unhappy about the T2 for "kidnapping" their players.
But in the end, China sent all "eligible players" to T2 Singapore...
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I love Mizutani but since his vision problems "appeared" then despite his efforts he couldn't achieve the same results than before. Japan Men's team will have a hard time getting a medal whether he plays or not.
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Your argument would sound way more persuasive had Niwa beaten Calderano in Austrian Open.
Even Niwa said he was lucky.
https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2019/12/03/0012927735.shtml
"I was able to get a minimum result in November. (Reserve player, etc.) Luck also overlapped, so I can't say I'm honestly happy, but I'm happy to have a chance to get into the 2 slots."
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Of course Niwa was lucky. But Mizutani never played a schedule that showed desperation.
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Best lineup for olympics:
Ito, Nagasaki, Kihara
Ito, Nagasaki, Kihara
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CNT is relieved it won't happen before 2024 if it does.
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Mizutani: I hate table tennis.
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/201912130000776.html
What plagued Mizutani was the condition that the ball was difficult to see. While the LED signboard surrounding the court and the spectator seats were darkened, the strong light hitting only the table tennis table was affected, making it impossible to see the ball as expected two years ago. It remains the same now.
As a result, the important fighting spirit as a player was lost. “I'm obsessed with victory. That kind of thing is lacking compared to the past. Is it time to pull out as an athlete?” He said without power.
“I hate table tennis like never before. It is harder than anything when playing table tennis. 90% is because of my eyes. I would like to rest for about half a year.”
However, Mizutani is Japan's 3rd in the world ranking. There is a high probability of being chosen as the 3rd member for the team battle. In the mixed doubles that will be the new event at the Tokyo Olympics, the combination with Mima Ito is in good condition and the gold medal is also in a position to be aimed at.
“If you don't regain your fighting spirit, you can't play well at the Olympics. I'm going to ask various veteran players to give their opinions."
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/201912130000776.html
Far from 3.5 years ago. “I'm just declining. I'm playing a game where I think I'm going to make a mistake. I just don't seem to be myself compared to my good past."
What plagued Mizutani was the condition that the ball was difficult to see. While the LED signboard surrounding the court and the spectator seats were darkened, the strong light hitting only the table tennis table was affected, making it impossible to see the ball as expected two years ago. It remains the same now.
As a result, the important fighting spirit as a player was lost. “I'm obsessed with victory. That kind of thing is lacking compared to the past. Is it time to pull out as an athlete?” He said without power.
“I hate table tennis like never before. It is harder than anything when playing table tennis. 90% is because of my eyes. I would like to rest for about half a year.”
However, Mizutani is Japan's 3rd in the world ranking. There is a high probability of being chosen as the 3rd member for the team battle. In the mixed doubles that will be the new event at the Tokyo Olympics, the combination with Mima Ito is in good condition and the gold medal is also in a position to be aimed at.
“If you don't regain your fighting spirit, you can't play well at the Olympics. I'm going to ask various veteran players to give their opinions."
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When the shit hits the fan.
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...o-2020-Singles&p=298898&viewfull=1#post298898
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Specific information appeared on the TOP-12 Japan (December 21-22, 2019)
http://www.jtta.or.jp/tournament/tabid/122/rptid/581/Default.aspx
Hirano Miu
Sato Hitomi
Miyu Kato
Hayata Hina
Shibata Saki
Hashimoto Honoka
Nagasaki Miyu
Idesawa Kyoka
Narumoto Ayami
Ayane Morita
(no Kihara....)
http://www.jtta.or.jp/tournament/tabid/122/rptid/581/Default.aspx
Hirano Miu
Sato Hitomi
Miyu Kato
Hayata Hina
Shibata Saki
Hashimoto Honoka
Nagasaki Miyu
Idesawa Kyoka
Narumoto Ayami
Ayane Morita
(no Kihara....
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20191021-EC-02The Executive Committee decided that there should be 2 (two) representatives of the AthletesCommission in the World Ranking Working Group.
7.11 T2 Diamond updateThe CEO updated the EC on the T2 Diamond situation and reported that several complaints havebeen received from the players and National Associations in regard to the overall situation,especially, the WR points allocation and the last-minute cancellation of the 2nd event.The EC was informed about the renegotiation of the terms and conditions and the signing of anaddendum between ITTF and Seamaster. The CEO and the President mentioned it was not agood situation for the ITTF and puts us in some financial difficulties but that we had tried ourbest to mitigate the negative affect.It was agreed that the current position of Special Advisor to the President occupied by Mr FrankJi, shall be reconsidered and further discussed.
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中国とほぼ僅差に
just a narrow margin between Japan and China
他の国とかなり離してます
much further away from other countries (in terms of abilities)
対中国しか考えていない
Only thinking about the line-up against China
overly optimistic if you ask me...
but interesting to see what they are taking into account (even the Hayata-Ito pair)
although it's a little hard to take them seriously when they mention possibly including Sato
I wonder how much of it is just PR when the team lineup has already been decided
I'd imagine the best line-up for Japan to beat China would be Ito-Hayata-Sato
Although impossible under the current circumstances
Japanese men's team is in the same position Singapore women's team was in 2012
desperately trying to hold onto a number 2 team world ranking.
Seems like the chances for Mizutani being chosen are higher than the chances of Hirano being chosen
since the later can be left out without affecting Japan's team world ranking
Why the rush to confirm everything on 6th January? The Shibata-Hirano doubles mystery thickens. Some mind-boggling decisions made by JNT.
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By the way, a couple of Sato-Hayata played, and played well ....
And we are waiting for the Japanese team to Germany Platinium ... Who will be announced in WD and XD .....
And we are waiting for the Japanese team to Germany Platinium ... Who will be announced in WD and XD .....
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