Hugo Calderano two hands on the backhand

chikuy · Apr 29, 2019

Hi TTD Community i am just curious in one thing from Hugo Calderano

Why do you think sometimes he has used the two hands grabbing the paddle to hit with the Backhand ?

comfortable, a strong or secure touch?

anjoooo · Apr 30, 2019

I've also been giving this some thought. Without actually trying it myself - my theory is that it gives a wider range of swing for your backhand.

Imagine the ball is coming fairly wide to your backhand and you are at least 2 metres from the table. Usually, you can't swing with a one-handed backhanded and generated much power. You'd probably fish. If you want to generate power you really need to be behind the ball so you can hit the ball in front of you.

I think, with a two-handed backhand, you can probably generate more power from that position without having to move behind the ball.

tropical · Apr 30, 2019

I don't think it works too well but I will give it a try next time in the club. This is not tennis you know.

RidTheKid · Apr 30, 2019

Perhaps he feels it offers more stability to steer the ball back onto the table.

Turdytree · Apr 30, 2019

Its definitely safer. My rotator cuff hurts when i do a big backhand swing

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yoass · Apr 30, 2019

I can't even manage a twohanded backhand when playing tennis. Or squash. Or badminton. It always feels awkward and limiting in mobility. It would add power and some extra guidance, I'd assume, but I'm too old a dog to learn new tricks there, I guess... sigh.

Hysteresis · Apr 30, 2019

My guess would be that, while the one handed backhand is a bigger stroke. The two handed backhand gives you more bang for your buck on shorter, more compact strokes.

So he's happy to counterloop from the backhand when he has time, but when he doesn't he can generate slightly more power with 2 hands off the shorter stroke when just "rescuing" the ball

Lula · Apr 30, 2019

I can not imagine he does this to benefit anything from it. I also find it interesting that you are discussing it. Think it is more fun or a reflex from when just playing around.

chikuy · Apr 30, 2019

Lula, Just wanted to see all different opinions about it because that hit from Calderano is out of the box, a friend of mine said the following. Calderano does it in some cases to have more balance , but i wasn't convinced at all.

chikuy · Apr 30, 2019

Hey Anjooo i have a new brand R47 rubber that i haven't unbox it yet, can you tell me your experience in that rubber please

anjoooo said:
I've also been giving this some thought. Without actually trying it myself - my theory is that it gives a wider range of swing for your backhand.

Imagine the ball is coming fairly wide to your backhand and you are at least 2 metres from the table. Usually, you can't swing with a one-handed backhanded and generated much power. You'd probably fish. If you want to generate power you really need to be behind the ball so you can hit the ball in front of you.

I think, with a two-handed backhand, you can probably generate more power from that position without having to move behind the ball.

Metaxa · Apr 30, 2019

chikuy said:
Lula, Just wanted to see all different opinions about it because that hit from Calderano is out of the box, a friend of mine said the following. Calderano does it in some cases to have more balance , but i wasn't convinced at all.

Or he was each time to late for a hand-switch-move...

olzetezkarzo · Apr 30, 2019

it makes sense in tennis because you need a lot more strength.
in table tennis with the strength of calderano and the tiny ball it's nonsense.....that's why nobody copied it.

anyway, the french "simon gauzy" also makes the same shot sometimes.
they are like twins.
same blade, same club, same shot technique, used to have same sponsor (cornilleau)....

lVegita · Apr 30, 2019

olzetezkarzo said:
anyway, the french "simon gauzy" also makes the same shot sometimes.

I was about to say that I saw Gauzy trying it against Xu Xin as well.

yogi_bear · Apr 30, 2019

Is there not supposed to be a free hand and a racket hand?

chikuy · Apr 30, 2019

umm i thought Calderano was the one Player who has used this tecnique

GusShnaps · May 1, 2019

chikuy said:
umm i thought Calderano was the one Player who has used this tecnique

Hugo and Simon were (and probably still are) practice partners. They practiced together for the German league, so that might be why Simon also does the two handed backhand.

GusShnaps · May 1, 2019

Hysteresis said:
My guess would be that, while the one handed backhand is a bigger stroke. The two handed backhand gives you more bang for your buck on shorter, more compact strokes.

I agree. It's probably easier to use for a more compact stroke (as he did against Harimoto in Korea).
I also think it's a better solution to use the two handed backhand (or switch hands) when the ball comes wide to the backhand side, maybe easier than using the regular backhand to be offensive.

anjoooo · May 1, 2019

chikuy said:
Hey Anjooo i have a new brand R47 rubber that i haven't unbox it yet, can you tell me your experience in that rubber please

Probably not the right thread to reply but I really like it. I used Rasant previously so R47 is obviously just a slight step up in terms of speed and spin. Although, to be honest I haven't really noticed much of a difference between Rasant and Rasanter. It might be that I can't get full use out of the improvements because my level isn't high enough to fully appreciate it. It's fast, it's bouncy, and it's spinny - everything you need out of a tensor rubber. I use it on both my FH and BH and I prefer looping to hitting.

chikuy · May 1, 2019

Thanks Anjooo jejejeje i took this time to talk about a different subjet, and i appriciated it! Thanks for your explanation!

anjoooo said:
Probably not the right thread to reply but I really like it. I used Rasant previously so R47 is obviously just a slight step up in terms of speed and spin. Although, to be honest I haven't really noticed much of a difference between Rasant and Rasanter. It might be that I can't get full use out of the improvements because my level isn't high enough to fully appreciate it. It's fast, it's bouncy, and it's spinny - everything you need out of a tensor rubber. I use it on both my FH and BH and I prefer looping to hitting.

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