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      ITTF Pilot Testing “Thickness Measurement on Dismantled Rubbers” Project

      The pilot project, which started at the ITTF Challenge Croatia Open this week, aims to ensure that the rubbers from professional table tennis players, used by ITTF tournaments, are following the rules: < 4.00 mm.

      The pilot project is also aiming to find out the best procedure to achieve the goal of ensuring players rackets are according to the ITTF rules:

      • to measure the thickness accurately
      • not to hold up player’s schedule unduly
      • to be transparent and credible towards all players

      This pilot project will run for 6 months at various ITTF events and initially has no consequences for players who fail testing and the results will stay confidential within the ITTF.

      How does it work?

      This procedure will apply to the players losing their match from the quarter-finals onwards and then both finalists, with players being able to also request random testing.

      Before the match, both players will be informed by the umpire in the Call Area that the racket of the loser and both players in the final will be tested again after the match;
      The respective racket will be collected by the umpire immediately after the end of the match. The racket will be secured in the racket testing room and the player shall appear within 20 minutes and dismantle the rubber. Otherwise, the racket control expert will dismantle the rubber;
      Once all measurements are completed, the rubber will be returned to the player.

      The rubber will be measured with a device called the KÄFER JD 200 which checks the thickness of the rubber on 3 spots in the central hitting area together with a RAE test with 60 sec. measurement on the sponge side.

      Once the 6-months pilot project is completed, the ITTF Equipment Department will present the results to the ITTF Executive Committee who will then decide the future of this testing.

      https://www.ittf.com/2019/05/19/ittf...bbers-project/

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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      This procedure will apply to the players losing their match from the quarter-finals onwards and then both finalists, with players being able to also request random testing.
      In a recent discussion with an executive elsewhere I asked what if the tournament winner is tested after the final and the rubber is found to be illegal? Since he would not have been tested as a winning player in quarter and semi final he would have won these with an illegal rubber. What shall happen?

      The answer was "We will see, it´s only a test for now."

      So, the consequences are quite unclear.

      At least they are sensitive enough not to rip your rubber off your racket at any given time to test it, if you would still like to play with it the next round, or doubles, or mixed ...

      The whole idea is just another questionable chapter in the witch-hunt for booster, which nearly everyone uses in some form or another.

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      From their tone, it appears they want to collect some data first, to see how effective the entire test will turn out and how rampant the violations are right now.

      If only Sharara never said factory-tuning is OK.
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      https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/d..._minutes_0.pdf
      3.4 Boosting Working Group
      The Equipment Manager, Mrs Claudia Herweg, updated the EC on the work done in the past weeks and presented the report conducted by the members of the boosting working group. Mrs Herweg informed about the considerations and the final conclusion of the report, of not allowing any after treatment(boosting) of the rubbers. The Equipment Manager reported that further tests will be conducted in the intention of defining a pilot phase that includes the dismantling the rubbers from the players’ Rackets, immediately after the end of a competition. The Athletes Commission Chair, Mr Zoran Primorac, expressed some of the concerns and possible issues that might arise from the players and events perspective. The President, Mr Thomas Weikert, asked the AC Chair, Mr Zoran Primorac, to discuss with the Athletes Commission members and with the players and present a report in regard to this topic at the next EC meeting in February. The EC acknowledged the importance of this matter and recommended the establishment of special rules that allow the dismantling of the rubbers at major events, after the competition ends. Further discussions should be continued under the leadership of the Equipment Department with regularly reports to the EC.
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      3.4 Boosting Working Group
      The ITTF Secretary General reported that the boosting working group is finally confirmed and can start their deliberations. A proposition should be presented at the next EC meeting in December in order to be eventually presented to the 2019 AGM in Budapest.
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      I think this will really effect Chinese players using Hurricane 3. I heard their blade sink in the middle of the blade so this measuring process will be able to detect that.

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      Blade sink in the middle?

      Quote Originally Posted by TTHopeful View Post
      I think this will really effect Chinese players using Hurricane 3. I heard their blade sink in the middle of the blade so this measuring process will be able to detect that.

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      POSTAPPROVAL TREATMENTS ON THE SPONGE IS A GROSS ILLEGALITY. DHS MANUFACTURER IS THE RAMPANT SINNER.

      Aside from manual rubber treatment by players, another illegal treatment is the factory tuning. In fact, factory tuning is a 'postapproval alteration to the rubber' as now being done in large by Chinese DHS manufacturer, and it is now prohibited by the ITTF Rubber Regulations T4, effective of January 2018.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      Blade sink in the middle?
      Old news. They've since moved down on the sponge thickness, from 2.15 to 2.1.

      http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum...ats-for#770265

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      That's what I thought


      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      Old news. They've since moved down on the sponge thickness, from 2.15 to 2.1.

      http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum...ats-for#770265

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      Old story but Jens Lundqvist failed racket inspection before the final of the Swedish nationals last year. He refused to play with his backup setup so the other guy (Källberg?) won on W-O.

      https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblad...ms-for-sporten
      (Google translate will do a fine job)

      His version of the story was that the measurement device was malfunctioning and reporting values between 3.89 and 4.15. Boosting job gone wrong or was he up to something more sinister?

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      Quote Originally Posted by igorponger View Post
      POSTAPPROVAL TREATMENTS ON THE SPONGE IS A GROSS ILLEGALITY. DHS MANUFACTURER IS THE RAMPANT SINNER.

      Aside from manual rubber treatment by players, another illegal treatment is the factory tuning. In fact, factory tuning is a 'postapproval alteration to the rubber' as now being done in large by Chinese DHS manufacturer, and it is now prohibited by the ITTF Rubber Regulations T4, effective of January 2018.
      I think I wrote this before. They never stated it. Factory tuning is still fine as long as they send a rubber that's been boosted-to-the-max at factory level to the ITTF for approval.

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