China Open 2019

Nemo · Jun 2, 2019

I was afraid that after losing the second to ML, ML would be able to run away with it.
Kinda was the case.

Still. Fantastic match by Harimoto, imo.
The fact that ML cho'd so much after his points definitely underlines that.

Simas · Jun 2, 2019

Ma Long 4:1 Harimoto...
it seemed it would take longer.

RidTheKid · Jun 2, 2019

What a match! Ma Long had to go through all his tricks and tools to pull off this win. Harimoto is the greatest talent this world has ever seen, a true prodigy. How good will he be in Tokyo? Good enough?

Ma Long made many uncharacteristic errors with his fh, maybe nerves.

Takkyu_wa_inochi · Jun 2, 2019

tough loss for Harimoto, he had his chances in this match, especially if he converted one of his game points in the 2nd

MA Long was excellent, but was a bit shaken by the kid.

HT is not even 16 yet (this month) and can get better until the Tokyo Olympics. I believe in him.

Atas Newton · Jun 2, 2019

Loving these stats, another interesting one:

Tomo uses the table so well, don't think I've seen a distribution this even from another player, although I haven't been able to watch many matches. I'd expect Timo to be up there as well. Where many players fall into patterns like BH to BH, Tomo finds the best place on the table to put the ball in a given situation. Super quick table tennis brain.

Atas Newton · Jun 2, 2019

Of course just as I say I haven't seen the balls so evenly spread, this comes up on the screen:

%pretends to be surprised% Although you can definitely see more of an arc characteristic of a FH oriented player that Ma Long is.

RidTheKid · Jun 2, 2019

I fully agree. While it's hard to argue with Ma Longs success I find him locked into systems and patterns maybe too much sometimes. One thing I've observed generally and again against FZD yesterday is ML rarely goes for the parallel shot in bh exchanges for instance, he keeps the pressure on the opponents bh with different placement in the bh corner. Sure, it works, and the table is longer diagonally and provides a less risky shot, but TT will also reward those who surprise their opponent.

Atas Newton said:
Loving these stats, another interesting one:

Tomo uses the table so well, don't think I've seen a distribution this even from another player, although I haven't been able to watch many matches. I'd expect Timo to be up there as well. Where many players fall into patterns like BH to BH, Tomo finds the best place on the table to put the ball in a given situation. Super quick table tennis brain.

RidTheKid · Jun 2, 2019

Will the stream be back up for the finals? So lovely to not having a commentator, I'm doing that myself

zeio said:

Atas Newton · Jun 2, 2019

RidTheKid said:
I fully agree. While it's hard to argue with Ma Longs success I find him locked into systems and patterns maybe too much sometimes. One thing I've observed generally and again against FZD yesterday is ML rarely goes for the parallel shot in bh exchanges for instance, he keeps the pressure on the opponents bh with different placement in the bh corner. Sure, it works, and the table is longer diagonally and provides a less risky shot, but TT will also reward those who surprise their opponent.

right, and conversely the BH parallel is the weapon of choice for Fan Zhendong and previously Zhang Jike against Ma Long. I think there's something meta going on between them when it comes to BH to BH rallies, something about establishing the alpha dominance within CNT

zeio · Jun 2, 2019

RidTheKid said:
Will the stream be back up for the finals? So lovely to not having a commentator, I'm doing that myself

I don't know. All-China finals are so boring. Is there any demand?

Atas Newton · Jun 2, 2019

zeio said:
I don't know. All-China finals are so boring. Is there any demand?

Dany12312312 just PM'd me asking for a link

RidTheKid · Jun 2, 2019

Oh yes Master!

zeio said:
I don't know. All-China finals are so boring. Is there any demand?

Michal_Z · Jun 2, 2019

zeio said:
I don't know. All-China finals are so boring. Is there any demand?

Remember, its boring unless there is Ma Long

atrapa · Jun 2, 2019

yes please

mrk · Jun 2, 2019

I wonder why Harimoto don't use his high toss serve anymore, Ma Long had tons of troubles last year in Japan.

Simas · Jun 2, 2019

smth is wrong with my stream...

zeio · Jun 2, 2019

Atas Newton · Jun 2, 2019

Thought more people would show up.

RidTheKid · Jun 2, 2019

Zeio, you da man!

Simas · Jun 2, 2019

So it's Men's douples at ITTF

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