speed glue vs. booster

thom · Jun 26, 2019

I have used boosters: FTL, Kailin. Dandoy Bio. Never used any speed glue. I am asking for a friend (and my own curiosity) the differences between the two , aside from the length and quality of the effect, in terms of if SG will permanently alter the playing characteristics of latest rubbers (that mostly come boosted) like some boosters - what happens to the rubber's playing characteristics if you do not reglue Does SG make the rubber curl like boosters and do you wait till the rubber somewhat flatten before sticking it to the blade. what are the adhesive properties of the SG compared to Elmers? Thanks.

TheKhan123 · Jun 26, 2019

Speed glue is definitely way more effective, but, has a shorter durability of between 3-5 hours. Of course, speed glue has health issues due to the hydrocarbons being used in it. I don't believe it's marketing or inequality that makes it banned, because health issues are no joke.

TheKhan123 · Jun 26, 2019

Speed glue increases the speed and spin about 20 percent, which makes your racket a rocket(word games xd)
But requires much more skill than when you boost.

thom · Jun 26, 2019

thanks Khan

yogi_bear · Jun 27, 2019

Speed glue has less longevity in terms of effect but has a more profound effect than boosters. There is even a huge difference between a speed glued h3 and the one with booster only.

thom · Jun 27, 2019

yogi_bear said:
Speed glue has less longevity in terms of effect but has a more profound effect than boosters. There is even a huge difference between a speed glued h3 and the one with booster only.

thanks

Loopadoop · Jun 27, 2019

Back in the speed glue legal era, used it, more spin, more speed, more control, more hastle, than the present boosting.

olzetezkarzo · Jun 27, 2019

the way top pros are boosting it clearly makes the rubber as fast as old speed glue.

problem is in the past you would put speed glue and you were doing the same thing pros were doing.

these days you put 3 layers of falco or seamoon because you saw it in a youtube video from chinawongpongtt.....but there's no proof that this is what the top pros are doing.
most likely it's not.

lasta · Jun 27, 2019

olzetezkarzo said:
the way top pros are boosting it clearly makes the rubber as fast as old speed glue.

problem is in the past you would put speed glue and you were doing the same thing pros were doing.

these days you put 3 layers of falco or seamoon because you saw it in a youtube video from chinawongpongtt.....but there's no proof that this is what the top pros are doing.
most likely it's not.

Boosting doesn't even come close to speed glue, nowhere near.

I'm in China these days, more people speed glue than not. Speedglued Mark 5 is still faster than Tenergy.

suds79 · Jun 27, 2019

I wasn't playing during the speedglue era but health risks and all that messing with your rubbers for only 3-5 hours performance? Just not worth it IMO.

You can play at an intermediate level just fine without tuning at all. But if you're looking for an edge, then boosting will do. Safer & less hassle in having to do it so much.

Loopadoop · Jun 27, 2019

lasta said:
Boosting doesn't even come close to speed glue, nowhere near.

I'm in China these days, more people speed glue than not. Speedglued Mark 5 is still faster than Tenergy.

Speed glued Mark V is a monster while boosted Mark V is not even close.

TheKhan123 · Jun 27, 2019

It is considerable that health issues are so bad
let's not risk our lifes for a game

olzetezkarzo · Jun 27, 2019

lasta said:
Boosting doesn't even come close to speed glue, nowhere near.

I'm in China these days, more people speed glue than not. Speedglued Mark 5 is still faster than Tenergy.

you can never know, unless you are part of the CNT and you know exactly how they are boosting.

olzetezkarzo · Jun 27, 2019

TheKhan123 said:
It is considerable that health issues are so bad
let's not risk our lifes for a game

if it was so bad all the pro players would be dead by now.
in the ittf tournaments they even had a room called "gluing room" or something like that where they would all go for gluing.
sometimes the players would stay in this room for a long time talking, etc.

for me it's all just a lie.

Jabugo · Jun 28, 2019

yogi_bear said:
Speed glue has less longevity in terms of effect but has a more profound effect than boosters. There is even a huge difference between a speed glued h3 and the one with booster only.

The effect is indeed profound in the way that feel remains consistent, but all aspects of speed/spin/control are increased. And the rubber does not gain as much weight like with booster use. Speed glue is a great way to prime new h3 so that it does not require as much break in time.

UpSideDownCarl · Jun 28, 2019

lasta said:
Boosting doesn't even come close to speed glue, nowhere near.

lasta said:
I'm in China these days, more people speed glue than not. Speedglued Mark 5 is still faster than Tenergy.

Loopadoop said:
Speed glued Mark V is a monster while boosted Mark V is not even close.

About 7-8 years ago I compared Tenergy to a speed glued Joola Mambo which is the same class of rubber as Mark V and Sriver. Without question, the Mambo with speed glue felt notably better than Tenergy.

The VOC fumes from the speed glue were not good for you. But they were not as bad as the ITTF made it out.

Artists use rubber cement which has the same VOCs as speed glue and are totally fine. People used to use use Tip Top tire glue as speed glue. That stuff really got the rubbers to expand. The people who do tire repairs are fine. It does say to use the stuff in a well ventilated area.

And if your put the glue in a bag and put the bag over your nose and mouth and inhale for a few minutes the fumes from the glue would get you high and if you do it enough, it would kill a lot of brain cells. But you really have to be doing something stupid to have it be as dangerous as the ITTF was presenting it to be.

ttpshot · Jun 28, 2019

We used to experiment and mixed hosts of other chemicals with speed glues. Toluene worked and stank like hell. That stuff really killed your brain cell if you inhaled it. Mix of Ecolo Effect (Juic) and toluene was really popular amongst university and high school players. In fact, if you soak sponges with toluene then use normal glue, it'll give very similar effect to speed glue.

Simas · Jun 29, 2019

Loopadoop said:
Back in the speed glue legal era, used it, more spin, more speed, more control, more hastle, than the present boosting.

I remember back in speed glue era, before the competition you could smell your way in TT club

lasta said:
I'm in China these days, more people speed glue than not. Speedglued Mark 5 is still faster than Tenergy.

Really? didn't know speed glue is still that popular. Maybe in China, but not in EU I suppose.

yogi_bear · Jun 30, 2019

I know a famous international coach who in the speed glue days asked a chemist to analyze the best speed glues and then made his own. He sold a lot of speed glue.

lasta · Jun 30, 2019

Are you talking about the Guoyuehua glue or something else?

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