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      Only if "holding it in" comes natural and not forced. He really could be this cool and then he's not holding anything in, really

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      is it emotionally healthy to hold it all in??

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      Quote Originally Posted by yoass View Post
      As far as anecdotal evidence carries, I actually have heard non-Chinese players mentioning injury as a reason for suboptimal gameplay, both incidentally and as reasons for longer bouts of lower performance levels. Boll, Ovtcharov, Maze, Petrissa Solja. Waldner, Schlager, Gatien… I think almost every pro runs into injury, once or twice, and for some it's effectively the end of their career (Maze, ZJK).
      I was referring to the fanboys who jump to the players defense after a loss

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      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      Only if "holding it in" comes natural and not forced. He really could be this cool and then he's not holding anything in, really
      Koki Niwa style...
      Cobra Kai TT Exponent - No mercy in this dojo, no matter your rating or the score. All spin, no power or footwork.

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      tbh .. I saw a little bit of waldner ... without any expression and more than normal ability to "see the ball early"
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      Lets go Spinny Looping !

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      Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi View Post
      reeducation camp for FZD
      Well, there might be some semblances of truth to this joke. FZD has pulled out (or was pulled out of?) of National Championships alongside Ma Long, Xu Xin, Liu Shiwen and Ding Ning. The latter four cited that they need more time to rest which is understandable considering that they are the 'elderly' on the team but Fan? Clearly he's in need of other forms of help.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Janard View Post
      Well, there might be some semblances of truth to this joke. FZD has pulled out (or was pulled out of?) of National Championships alongside Ma Long, Xu Xin, Liu Shiwen and Ding Ning. The latter four cited that they need more time to rest which is understandable considering that they are the 'elderly' on the team but Fan? Clearly he's in need of other forms of help.
      I saw news on some Chinese websites that there is some discussion that LGL should personally groom FZD now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Janard View Post
      Well, there might be some semblances of truth to this joke. FZD has pulled out (or was pulled out of?) of National Championships alongside Ma Long, Xu Xin, Liu Shiwen and Ding Ning. The latter four cited that they need more time to rest which is understandable considering that they are the 'elderly' on the team but Fan? Clearly he's in need of other forms of help.
      Well I think there is no point sending the obvious Olympics hopefuls to the Nationals. Age or not, I think FZD deserves that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drunix80 View Post
      I saw news on some Chinese websites that there is some discussion that LGL should personally groom FZD now.
      Haha yeah, but that's like over-stretching things IMO. Nonetheless, Xinhua released a Tokyo 2020 Olympics promotional video for Team China yesterday and FZD was one of the four (other three being ML, LSW and DN) to appear in it, leading some to speculate that these quartet have been guaranteed places for next year and hence the swift approvals for their withdrawals from National.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Janard View Post
      Haha yeah, but that's like over-stretching things IMO. Nonetheless, Xinhua released a Tokyo 2020 Olympics promotional video for Team China yesterday and FZD was one of the four (other three being ML, LSW and DN) to appear in it, leading some to speculate that these quartet have been guaranteed places for next year and hence the swift approvals for their withdrawals from National.
      Strange not to see one of Wang manyu, chen meng, sun yingsha or among the female players

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      It's nice to see that foreigners are starting to challenge the Chinese top players and produce all of these upsets. Though I still think if ML and FZD can get back into their proper form it will be very hard for anyone to beat them. That's just my opinion though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TeoTeoTeo View Post
      Strange not to see one of Wang manyu, chen meng, sun yingsha or among the female players
      Quote Originally Posted by Janard View Post
      Haha yeah, but that's like over-stretching things IMO. Nonetheless, Xinhua released a Tokyo 2020 Olympics promotional video for Team China yesterday and FZD was one of the four (other three being ML, LSW and DN) to appear in it, leading some to speculate that these quartet have been guaranteed places for next year and hence the swift approvals for their withdrawals from National.
      It's a promotional video so I think they just need to use the most popular names and faces. I wouldn't draw any conclusion from it wrt who's going to Tokyo.

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      We ain't see nothing until its World Championships or Olympics... so take everything with a pinch of salt.

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      It's nice to see that foreigners are starting to challenge the Chinese top players and produce all of these upsets. Though I still think if ML and FZD can get back into their proper form it will be very hard for anyone to beat them. That's just my opinion though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ttmonster View Post
      We ain't see nothing until its World Championships or Olympics... so take everything with a pinch of salt.
      The World Cup should be interesting

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      They don't care about that much unless somebody is targetting a grandslam .. remember the time it was held in US and the women's team did not send any ... there is a reason why non Chinese players have a better record in World Cup compared to other competitions anyways ... normally they knock off 2 or 3 of those before they start chasing the others ...
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      The World Cup should be interesting

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      Quote Originally Posted by TeoTeoTeo View Post
      Strange not to see one of Wang manyu, chen meng, sun yingsha or among the female players
      Didn’t WMY and SYS retire in shame?

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