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      Why is zhang jike alc not so popular or used?

      I don't say don't use it anywhere in the world , it's strange to see it commonly

      Does anyone have any theory ?

      Anyone have it and can you give us your review????


      Thanks.

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      because the person the blade is named from is using viscaria

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      Maybe because Zhang Jike is not playing now.

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      maybe because it is nearly the same blade as viscaria and costs 30 EUR more then viscaria

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      Quote Originally Posted by laistrogian View Post
      because the person the blade is named from is using viscaria
      LOL

      I doubt that this would be a reason, but I like your answer and in general I think it's a problem when a lot of pro's are using other blades then they claim.


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      There are plenty of people using ZJK ALC here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Simas View Post
      LOL

      I doubt that this would be a reason, but I like your answer and in general I think it's a problem when a lot of pro's are using other blades then they claim...
      ZJK openly used Viscaria, which is part of the reason that it became such a popular blade. No handle jiggery-pokery from him at least.

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      Quote Originally Posted by darucla View Post
      ZJK openly used Viscaria, which is part of the reason that it became such a popular blade. No handle jiggery-pokery from him at least.
      No handle jiggery -pokery is much better then changing the handles which is straight lying imho.

      But still this does not help to sell super zlc for zhang jike fan (and that's the ultimate goal of butterfly) who sees that zjang jike is using viscaria which is 3 times cheaper then super duper zlc

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      Isn't Zjk alc just a remade Viscaria but with some diferences!?

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      Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear View Post
      Isn't Zjk alc just a remade Viscaria but with some diferences!?
      It's the exact same comp and thickness as Viscaria, Timo Boll ALC and Spirit, and the Kenta ALC. Just a different design.

      To answer OP, a lot of people use the ZJK ALC. It's more expensive than the first 3 blades I mentioned and those have been around a lot longer. Viscaria happens to be used by many pros and CNT players including ZJK himself so that only helps its sales. Same with the TB ALC used by many European pros etc.
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      And a lot of people still are misled by Butterfly's schemes.

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      I find it kinda unfaiir by Butterfly to Do this. Not okay towards the customer.

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      I think butterfly started this with gergely before. They named this with Klampar.

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      I think a lot of people use and like the Zhang Jike blade handle designs. While the Butterfly Koto ALC blades are all similar, their different handle designs appeal to different players. People who focus on price may pick a cheaper alternative, but people who focus on handle design and balance may pick the one best suited to them and that might be the Zhang Jike handle design.

      I do agree that a lot of it is marketing, we still see new Timo Boll blades, but I suspect that Butterfly is looking for someone to rebrand the Zhang Jike design with.
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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      I think a lot of people use and like the Zhang Jike blade handle designs. While the Butterfly Koto ALC blades are all similar, their different handle designs appeal to different players. People who focus on price may pick a cheaper alternative, but people who focus on handle design and balance may pick the one best suited to them and that might be the Zhang Jike handle design.

      I do agree that a lot of it is marketing, we still see new Timo Boll blades, but I suspect that Butterfly is looking for someone to rebrand the Zhang Jike design with.
      Also, these all-too-similar Butterfly Koto ALC blades do offer different handle sizes and shapes on top of the different designs.

      The Timo Boll ALC and Spirit have smaller handles than the Viscaria / ZJK ALC. The first too offer square ST handles whereas the latter offer round ST handles.

      Finally, the Kenta FL handle is even slimmer than the Timo Boll's.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong View Post
      Also, these all-too-similar Butterfly Koto ALC blades do offer different handle sizes and shapes on top of the different designs.

      The Timo Boll ALC and Spirit have smaller handles than the Viscaria / ZJK ALC. The first too offer square ST handles whereas the latter offer round ST handles.

      Finally, the Kenta FL handle is even slimmer than the Timo Boll's.

      Too bad they don't make at least one blade with thick handle like Stiga legend handle

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      Quote Originally Posted by piligrim View Post
      Too bad they don't make at least one blade with thick handle like Stiga legend handle
      Ah too big for me, but you're right, they should give handle size options for their most popular blades!

      You probably have the same problem with DHS and many other companies.

      You're good with Tibhar handles?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong View Post
      Ah too big for me, but you're right, they should give handle size options for their most popular blades!

      You probably have the same problem with DHS and many other companies.

      You're good with Tibhar handles?

      Exactly. They all too thin
      The only Tibhar blade I tried is Force Pro Black Edition. It's handle better then TB ALC or DHS blades but still I wish it was wider

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      Piligrim, maybe your hand is really just that big. The Force Pro Black is already bigger than most handles.

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      Maybe I should use word Comfortable instead of Big? ...

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