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    Xiom Ice Cream AZXi vs Butterfly Viscaria FL

    Very curious to know which one is better for a all-round offensive and spinny game.

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    Azxi is about 1 or 2 levels faster than viscaria

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    Lol, surprised anyone would even include viscaria in ALL category. If you want offensive and spinny, acoustic is the way to go and even that is much faster than ALL.

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    The ALL-play performance of player+rubbers+blade depend mostly on plater's expertise, after that on rubbers characteristics and just then on the blade. Some blades, although in OFF or OFF+ category, with propper rubbers and in propper hands may prove very All capable. But all these depend mostly on the player feeling with the particular blade+rubbers combo. Fpr one Viscaria would be better, for another player - the AZXi. For me its the Vega Tour blade.
    There is not only one answer.

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    Bump im interested in this
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    Also viscaria is 2nd layer composite while azxi 8s 3rd layer composite.

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    I've had the Viscaria longer than the AZXi. But I found the AZXi to be a bit slower in comparison to the Viscaria. I have tried the same 2 rubber combinations on both to eliminate that variable. Combinations of both tensors and tacky rubbers were used. I found tacky rubbers were especially slow on the AZXi compared to the Viscaria; I have used Nittaku H3 OS, H3 neo & nat BS. I'm still trying to figure out my perfect blade/rubber combinations after an 8 year break from the game. I have been playing again for the last 2 years, and I'm still not 100% comfortable with my current setup. It could also be FOMO because the blade/rubber market & variety of products is overwhelming! So I'm still experimenting, and trying to figure out what suits my style.

    I found because the Viscaria's first two layers are Koto, then ALC it's physically a lot harder layer than the limba, 3rd layer composite of the AZXi. I used to have an acoustic (limba outer all wood blade), but found that too slow as well for my looping style. Or maybe I just got used to the hardness of Viscaria?
    I've also read (on a similar forum) that some people can be are more sensitive to the feeling produced by koto or limba.

    Would love to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

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    I don't have the AZXi, but I have the AZX and the Viscaria. I can say from my experience, the AZX is much faster than my Viscaria. The AZX is fun to play with bc of the speed and directness, but it's also much harder to keep it on the table.

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