DHS Goldarc 8 vs Stiga Mantra M

zimbara · Sep 11, 2019

Hi all. I would like to try one of these 2 rubbers for my backhand, and was wondering, which rubber would be more controllable and linear? Which is slower but generates more spin?
GoldArc 8 47.5 med vs Stiga Mantra M? On a 5 ply all+ blade, YSE.

yoass · Sep 12, 2019

Take my words with a grain of salt. I have some experience with both, but I know GA8 far better.

I like both a lot and can play just fine with either. Producing spin, for me, felt a bit easier with GA8 than with Mantra M in serving and in pushes. When looping and counterlooping both produce good quality shots, close to each other. Both are very fast, but (again, to me) feel very controllable. As far as linearity goes, I couldn't really say. Both are modern tensor-type rubbers, of course, but both are not extremely bouncy. I could cope with either of them in the touch game, but I think that's very level-relative.

Hustler37 · Sep 12, 2019

I use Mantra M red in max on forhand on a Sanwei Fextra blade. And im really impressed about it. I tried ALOT of rubbers maybe about 10 rubbers like Tenergy 05, Razka 7, Andro Rasanter R 47 and so on.
But with Mantra M i really enjoying playing. I can hit all over the table with it, theres no limit with it. The spin is amacing in opening loops with a lower speed but ALOT of spin when i brushes the rubber. In serving its Fantastic.

For my style of playing its the BEST fh rubber ever. Im hoping it will never go out of production

Wister · Sep 12, 2019

Hustler37 said:
I use Mantra M red in max on forhand on a Sanwei Fextra blade. And im really impressed about it. I tried ALOT of rubbers maybe about 10 rubbers like Tenergy 05, Razka 7, Andro Rasanter R 47 and so on.
But with Mantra M i really enjoying playing. I can hit all over the table with it, theres no limit with it. The spin is amacing in opening loops with a lower speed but ALOT of spin when i brushes the rubber. In serving its Fantastic.

For my style of playing its the BEST fh rubber ever. Im hoping it will never go out of production

Can you say more about the difference between rakza 7 and Mantra M ? I hesitate between both

yogi_bear · Sep 12, 2019

GoldArc should be somewhat spinnier but i like the Mantra M as a bh rubber better because it is not spin sensitive abd it is more bouncy.

Hustler37 · Sep 12, 2019

I really fell every Ball on the racket crisp and controlling both active and passive shots with Manta M.
The rubber doesnt surprice you wtih catapult effect. You get power in your shots if you want to attact no tensor in it, whitch i really like.

Razka 7 is also a okay rubber.
Much more spin sensitive than Mantra M.
Thinking Razka 7 is a older type of modern rubber.

Zeen · Sep 12, 2019

Mantra M is japanese made, GA8 is german made.
Just by that it is easy to say Mantra is more linear, has better topsheet and lasts longer.

yoass · Sep 13, 2019

I somewhat like this reasoning from principles, but still don't subscribe to its conclusion.

Airoc · Sep 13, 2019

yogi_bear said:
GoldArc should be somewhat spinnier

Not sure about that. Played with the 47,5 degree version a while ago and thought it was really good, comparable to bluefire/Evolution and co. But I thought the Mantra M was a different beast altogether, up there with tenergy05 (and quite similar in the Made-in-Japan style playing characteristics).

yogi_bear · Sep 13, 2019

Mantra like other Daiki made rubbers still has lesser spin compared to ESN rubbers though if you ask me which i prefer overall, i would go with the Mantra.

Zeen · Sep 13, 2019

yoass said:
I somewhat like this reasoning from principles, but still don't subscribe to its conclusion.

that's ok. From my experience, it is mostly true though. ESN rubbers have more factory tuning and perform significantly worse after 2-3 months.

yoass · Sep 13, 2019

Zeen said:
that's ok. From my experience, it is mostly true though. ESN rubbers have more factory tuning and perform significantly worse after 2-3 months.

I think I glued on my GA8/50 early july, and am nearing that mark (with about 10-12 hours of play in a good week). You did rouse my interest in Mantra, but I'm not done with my little infatuation with a hardish FH rubber just yet so might give Mantra H a thought or two. Hopefully I'll come across somebody playing it.

yogi_bear · Sep 14, 2019

Mantra H is actually a pretty decent rubber for fh. It is faster than a lot of esn rubbers. I like it as a bh rubber. It packs a punch.

yoass · Sep 14, 2019

yogi_bear said:
Mantra H is actually a pretty decent rubber for fh. It is faster than a lot of esn rubbers. I like it as a bh rubber. It packs a punch.

Even more of a punch than GA8 at 50º does? That's already quite punchful to me.

But that's not what I like most about it. The best part (to me) is not the availability of the high gears, but the lack of bounciness in the lower gears. I do get to blast past my opponents with quality shots, true, but it's the reliability I get in the short game that seals it for me. Tight and spinny short pushes if I want them to be. This helps a lot. Is Mantra (esp. H) like that also?

yogi_bear · Sep 14, 2019

I think mantra h is really fast but as expected from a fast rubber, the gears are less compared to a 50 degree rubber.

bricec · Sep 14, 2019

Without having as much xp as you folks, I would say short game is where I find the mantra (M in my case) a bit lacking. It is a fast rubber and as long as you have confidence in your strokes you can definitely go quite far with it (especially on flat hits when you manage to get a bit of high ball back), but the short game requires a very good touch to be efficient (especially in 2.1mm).

I personally use it as a fh rubber, paired wit a 2.2mm genesis 2 M in the backhand, which I particularly like.

mart1nandersson · Sep 14, 2019

I know quite a lot of players that has replaced T05 with Mantra M and are super happy with it. Mantra H on the other hand quite a few people (former T05 players) are unhappy with as it's extremely fast.

yogi_bear · Sep 15, 2019

To be honest, Mantra H's speed is more on the Bryce Speed range so it is not surprising that people find it too fast.

Konrad Bak · Sep 15, 2019

Mantra is not made by chinese DHS ?

yogi_bear · Sep 15, 2019

Nope. DAIKI Japan. Forgot the new company name.

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