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      Andro releases Rasanter R53

      And the hardness race continues:

      https://www.andro.de/products/rubbers/rasanter-r53-en-gb/


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vAfeVxAmcM

      And the prices keep on rising...

      60€
      Last edited by thomas.pong; 10-10-2019 at 11:38 PM.

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      "You will be surprised how soft 53 degrees can feel like"

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      Eventually the old hardbats will be called softbats

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      Honestly, ESN 53 is still not "hard" compared to Chinese rubbers in the past 20 years. Also, the "thin topsheet" trend nowadays makes even hard sponged rubbers feel soft.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lasta View Post
      Honestly, ESN 53 is still not "hard" compared to Chinese rubbers in the past 20 years. Also, the "thin topsheet" trend nowadays makes even hard sponged rubbers feel soft.
      True when compared with Chinese rubbers which are 41+ degrees on their scale which is like 51+ degrees on the European scale but with much harder topsheets, and the thin topsheet does help a bit on the new generation ESN rubbers, but they're still meant to be different rubbers that work very differently.

      I currently prefer between 45-47 degrees on my FH, doubt it will change anytime soon, but maybe I'll want to go harder later as I improve. Dignics 05 didn't feel as hard as I thought it would but was still to hard for me right now. I guess I should try more hard thin topsheets rubber to see how they feel.
      Last edited by thomas.pong; 10-11-2019 at 09:06 AM.

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      Even the 60 degrees Omega 7 Hyper I have now is nothing compared to those old PF4s.

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      Andro said before that Simon Gauzy was using R50.Now that R53 has been released they are claiming that he is using R53.Who knows maybe he is using R55-57 but they don’t claim that cz May be they can’t be mass produced for the public.

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      Who cares? Pick a hardness that works for you, which most of the time isn't the hardness used by the pros.

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      I am just saying that atleast the companies should be honest

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      Quote Originally Posted by guni4you View Post
      I am just saying that atleast the companies should be honest
      Honesty is rarely profitable.

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      Quote Originally Posted by guni4you View Post
      Andro said before that Simon Gauzy was using R50.Now that R53 has been released they are claiming that he is using R53.Who knows maybe he is using R55-57 but they don’t claim that cz May be they can’t be mass produced for the public.
      Pros can select their sponge properties and get rubbers with their exact specifications

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      if you don't boost there is no need for the extra hardness.all pros boost their rubbers or they are factory boosted. increased hardness= boosting, that is it

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      Really?Is this the only difference?What is the benefit of boosting a hard rubber then?

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      Has anyone had the chance to try this rubber?

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      Anyone?

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      Quote Originally Posted by guni4you View Post
      Really?Is this the only difference?What is the benefit of boosting a hard rubber then?
      I'm not an expert about boosting but when you boost the rubber gets softer. So a harder rubber allows to boost and still have the hardness they like. And boosting increases spin and speed

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      Quote Originally Posted by guni4you View Post
      Anyone?
      At the moment, it seems only andro´s parent company Schöler+Micke has them available. Contra, another big distributor, for example has not.

      At the German Open the R53 could be tested, but such test under different conditions and presumably not on one´s one racket wouldn´t produce reliable results, if you ask me.

      Some feedback I read was "fast" (which was to be expected ...) and "feeling softer than the sponge would have you expect" (which is what andro says anyway).

      Overall, you might need a little patience until paid/trusted reviewers get their hands on the rubbers or they appear on a broader basis.

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      Why does Andro say that you wouldn’t believe how soft 53 hardness sponge might feel.Is it cz of the booster?

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      Quote Originally Posted by guni4you View Post
      Why does Andro say that you wouldn’t believe how soft 53 hardness sponge might feel.Is it cz of the booster?
      Official marketing talk from andro is that the sponge has a different cell structure than the other rasanter rubbers called "Energy Cell" that gives the rubber a softer impression when playing. To me it sounds similar to what butterly is saying in regards to the difference of their new sponge for the dignics rubbers compared to regular Tenergy sponge.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Airoc View Post
      At the moment, it seems only andro´s parent company Schöler+Micke has them available. Contra, another big distributor, for example has not.

      At the German Open the R53 could be tested, but such test under different conditions and presumably not on one´s one racket wouldn´t produce reliable results, if you ask me.

      Some feedback I read was "fast" (which was to be expected ...) and "feeling softer than the sponge would have you expect" (which is what andro says anyway).

      Overall, you might need a little patience until paid/trusted reviewers get their hands on the rubbers or they appear on a broader basis.
      http://www.dandoy-sports.com/andro-rasanter-r53.html

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