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      Quote Originally Posted by Zvokovski Kuznetzova View Post
      Whadya think about H3?
      It is a decent rubber, that is in similar type to jupiter 2.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto View Post
      It is a decent rubber, that is in similar type to jupiter 2.
      Can't wait to try jupiter 2 with xiom offensive..

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      I slapped an excess sheet of Jupiter II on the FH of a blade of a dude who is taking lessons, it is not a wild crazy OFF rubber, more oriented towards control for drives, just what a drive happy Korean learning dude has for center of mass. He can spend money on equipment later when he levels up.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte View Post
      I slapped an excess sheet of Jupiter II on the FH of a blade of a dude who is taking lessons, it is not a wild crazy OFF rubber, more oriented towards control for drives, just what a drive happy Korean learning dude has for center of mass. He can spend money on equipment later when he levels up.
      If I use Jupiter II on my FH with Xiom Offensive S blade, how should I play?

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      Play stroke fully, do full weight transfer, position yourself properly to avoid reaching for the ball.

      In my particular case. When I am mess up the shot (stop stroke half the way for example) the ball flies off.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zvokovski Kuznetzova View Post
      If I use Jupiter II on my FH with Xiom Offensive S blade, how should I play?
      I’d say a first-position spin- and counterattack game, focused on consistency and placement rather than raw speed and spin pressure.

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      Didn’t read the whole thing but man, nivekkan surely found a competitor for long threads of confusion

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      Quote Originally Posted by lVegita View Post
      Didn’t read the whole thing but man, nivekkan surely found a competitor for long threads of confusion
      Heyy I am confused already. You want to join this confusion cult too? lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by yoass View Post
      I’d say a first-position spin- and counterattack game, focused on consistency and placement rather than raw speed and spin pressure.
      I'm sorry, but what exactly "first-position spin" is?

      By "counterattack", you mean when opponent is trying to give me topspin loop rallies, I give 'em back the topspin loop right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zvokovski Kuznetzova View Post
      I'm sorry, but what exactly "first-position spin" is?

      By "counterattack", you mean when opponent is trying to give me topspin loop rallies, I give 'em back the topspin loop right?

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      First position is close to the table. And cointering can be a counter topspin, a flatter drive, or even an active pinch block.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nivekkan View Post
      As far as I understand the difference is in the distance of play, the power and the intention behind the stroke.
      Not really. Chinese and European players these days play at about the same distance and have pretty much the same intention on their shots. Spin is spin, power is power. Chinese tend to use hard tacky rubbers that are boosted but less springy, as opposed to Europeans who generally play with grippy softer rubbers. Starting from a young age, these differences will alter technique some, but what players are trying to accomplish is similar. Chinese players are great because (1) selected from a larger pool, (2) constant access to coaching and the highest possible level of practice partners, and (3) very high-level coaching based on analytics. There is nothing like it anywhere else in the world. Note also that Chinese women also use tacky DHS rubbers on their forehand but play quite differently from Chinese or European men, from much closer in, and yet they still dominate as much as Chinese men (or more).

      If someone has not been playing for too long it might be worth a try to play with tacky Chinese rubber on the forehand. But it you have been playing with European or most Japanese rubbers for very long, it is going to feel really strange.

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      The thing is that when you are a good and experienced player and you hang around experienced players, especially some who have played or coached at the national level, you see how silly a lot of stuff people waste time on is.

      If you have money change equipment however you choose and as much as you like. If you don't, just play with what you have. Training matters far more than what you use.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Baal View Post
      Not really. Chinese and European players these days play at about the same distance and have pretty much the same intention on their shots. Spin is spin, power is power. Chinese tend to use hard tacky rubbers that are boosted but less springy, as opposed to Europeans who generally play with grippy softer rubbers. Starting from a young age, these differences will alter technique some, but what players are trying to accomplish is similar. Chinese players are great because (1) selected from a larger pool, (2) constant access to coaching and the highest possible level of practice partners, and (3) very high-level coaching based on analytics. There is nothing like it anywhere else in the world. Note also that Chinese women also use tacky DHS rubbers on their forehand but play quite differently from Chinese or European men, from much closer in, and yet they still dominate as much as Chinese men (or more).

      If someone has not been playing for too long it might be worth a try to play with tacky Chinese rubber on the forehand. But it you have been playing with European or most Japanese rubbers for very long, it is going to feel really strange.
      I am already using and accustomed (to a "certain" extend hehe) to Chinese rubber from the very first I have racket, so yeah I'm happy, I just need to...play harder (i.e. using real stroke and such)..

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      I am already using and accustomed (to a "certain" extend hehe) to Chinese rubber from the very first I have racket, so yeah I'm happy, I just need to...play harder (i.e. using real stroke and such)..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte View Post
      I slapped an excess sheet of Jupiter II on the FH of a blade of a dude who is taking lessons, it is not a wild crazy OFF rubber, more oriented towards control for drives, just what a drive happy Korean learning dude has for center of mass. He can spend money on equipment later when he levels up.
      What??

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      My new racket has come
      It's xiom offensive s with both 2.2 mm rubbers (jupiter ii and vega euro)

      I think the width exceeds the ittf regulation, i suppose?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zvokovski Kuznetzova View Post
      I think the width exceeds the ittf regulation, i suppose?
      How come? Both of them are ITTF approved...

      Quote Originally Posted by MegaSpin
      ITTF rules state that the maximum of the sponge and topsheet cannot be greater than 4.00mm.

      Thickness of sponge doesn't matter. What matter is total thickness of rubber. So technically you can have thinner sponge and thicker pimples or reverse. I think most of the time manufacturers just glue different sponges to one top sheet and that's why you can choose.
      Last edited by Kuba Hajto; 1 Week Ago at 02:11 PM.

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      So my "2.2mm" rubbers (both jupiter II and vega euro) are actually 2.2mm WITH sponge?

      So my rubbers doesn't actually exceed 4.0mm ?

      Phew thx God

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      2.2mm is only the thickness of the sponge.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zvokovski Kuznetzova View Post
      My new racket has come
      It's xiom offensive s with both 2.2 mm rubbers (jupiter ii and vega euro)

      I think the width exceeds the ittf regulation, i suppose?

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      All approved rubbers are 4.0mm total thickness. So 2.2mm sponge plus 1.8mm rubber topsheet = 4.0mm total. (I took a guess on the topsheet thickness).

      So, how's the new racket? Have you practiced with it yet?

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