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      Quote Originally Posted by Hysteresis View Post
      It's because you keep putting your hopes behind young unproven talent.

      While exceptional talent might be sufficient to upset a series of top players in quick succession, win a few tournaments, maybe even platinum events. No truly top level player has just appeared on the scene and started dominating, staying at the top. You always need to fortify your talent with better mechanics, better physicality and big match experience.

      Both Harimoto and LYJ are still very young and have not had the opportunity to fine tune their game. Harimoto also has some rather simple holes in his game that obviously need to be fixed.

      Their real test will not be 2020 but how they develop in the long run. To expect players that young to come out of nowhere and take olympic gold is... frankly insane. That's just not the kind of sport TT is.
      I agree with some of this, but these players didn't "come out of nowhere". As the last 3 games showed, these guys can still create upsets, it is just that Danny is too focused on single matches, rather than realizing that the most important thing is to be showing progress. The Olympics are a single moment. China is still the dominant power. But LYJ and TH have shown me enough for me to see that they have a chance - it is like 5% but 5% in the Olympics is better than zero.
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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      I agree with some of this, but these players didn't "come out of nowhere". As the last 3 games showed, these guys can still create upsets, it is just that Danny is too focused on single matches, rather than realizing that the most important thing is to be showing progress. The Olympics are a single moment. China is still the dominant power. But LYJ and TH have shown me enough for me to see that they have a chance - it is like 5% but 5% in the Olympics is better than zero.
      By "out of nowhere" I mean in the sense of the international circuit. We havn't seen that much of them playing THAT many competitive matches against other top players, mostly because they havn't been on the scene that long and havn't had a chance to.

      I think Danny isn't neccessarily focused on single matches, as their overall level of play. He's expecting them to already be favourites or roughly even against top players like FZD. This is simply not the case. FZD simply has a more complete and overall better game than either of these players at the moment, they are not going to be walking into a match with him as the favourite anytime soon (at least unless FZD hits another major slump).

      I agree upsets are possible, especially, I think from LYJ. But he's not going to be looking like a better player against people who are genuinely top players at the moment, because he just hasn't had that development in his game yet. It's also what makes it an upset, it wouldn't be an upset if he were just better than everyone and is expecting to win.

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      CIC decided take a detour around the ball kids...XD

      CIC spices up the CNT long-serve tactic with some plain backspin/no-spin serves for some 3rd ball winners.

      Compared to last time in WTGF 2018, Ito could hold her own in the rallies here, which is good enough.

      Both are picking up points on their own serves. It'll come down to the 3rd balls.

      G4, TO for CIC at 6:3 after Ito's side edge. 8:6, 8:8(1x kick serve, 1x 3rd ball), 11:8 for Ito.

      That backspin hook serve by Ito to CIC's short FH is so spinny. Straight to the bottom of the net even though pushed back.




      CIC came prepared and stole a game from Ito but no more WTGF 2018.

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      Quote Originally Posted by karupinkun View Post
      in a game between dima and harimoto you claim that harimoto is annoying? I can understand that people dont like his choing, but at the same dima is even worse with his delayed shouting in the rallys... sounds like double standards for me
      Yes I agree with that, how long has Dima been doing that, I don't remember seeing it before much!

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      Ito knows how to arrange adventures for himself ....

      I would like to hope that Now Ito will bring the game to victory ....
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      Hayata keeps getting those winners back. Yup, from LGY. Harimoto will be the one who makes or breaks.



      Harimoto can't keep up in G2. Too many soft returns.

      G3
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      G4
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      Ito looking buff

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      ZYL: Hey Hayata, how about we pair instead?
      Hayata: Sure.

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      1st time I see Hayata in this form.

      LGY: WTF? I thought this was the XD, not MD!
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      Hayata is such a great doubles player. You clearly saw her confidence, after her last good single results

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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      when will JNT coaches realize that they need Hayata in the team ?

      When XU Xin is not playing, a Chinese doubles pair looks much more ordinary

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      Interviewer: These are the winners... Hina Hayata.... and... Harimoto... Tomokazu!

      Lol everyone could see who carried the team.

      P.S. Also Adam has to stop with his half-assed knowledge about the Chinese, culture and language wise. "Lin Gaoyuan, from Sichuan speaks Cantonese and Mandarin." Just stop.

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      If this tournament doesn't convince JTTA that Hayata deserves that 3rd spot, I don't know what will. She really deserves the 2nd spot, but at the very least should be on the Olympic team as the 3rd player. First, 4-0 over HM and now the star player as XD champion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pongfugrasshopper View Post
      If this tournament doesn't convince JTTA that Hayata deserves that 3rd spot, I don't know what will. She really deserves the 2nd spot, but at the very least should be on the Olympic team as the 3rd player. First, 4-0 over HM and now the star player as XD champion.
      Maybe Hirano felt the pressure as well and thats why she played that bad against Hayata (even though i think Hayata is the better player at the moment anyway by a good margin)

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      Quote Originally Posted by pongfugrasshopper View Post
      If this tournament doesn't convince JTTA that Hayata deserves that 3rd spot, I don't know what will. She really deserves the 2nd spot, but at the very least should be on the Olympic team as the 3rd player. First, 4-0 over HM and now the star player as XD champion.
      I think her body of work is good, but it is never a good thing to point to one tournament. She would have to win the whole thing to make that case. And then have one or two more good results, especially the Japanese top 12 and Champs.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Takkyu_wa_inochi View Post
      Maybe Hirano felt the pressure as well and thats why she played that bad against Hayata (even though i think Hayata is the better player at the moment anyway by a good margin)
      Hirano had a bad day - she would not lose 0-4 to better players in that way.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Janard View Post
      Interviewer: These are the winners... Hina Hayata.... and... Harimoto... Tomokazu!

      Lol everyone could see who carried the team.

      P.S. Also Adam has to stop with his half-assed knowledge about the Chinese, culture and language wise. "Lin Gaoyuan, from Sichuan speaks Cantonese and Mandarin." Just stop.
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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      Hayata keeps getting those winners back. Yup, from LGY. Harimoto will be the one who makes or breaks.



      Harimoto can't keep up in G2. Too many soft returns.

      G3
      Hayata = man
      Harimoto = sissy

      G4
      Hayata = superman
      Harimoto = man




      Hina Hayata honestly deserved this victory .......

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      Quote Originally Posted by zeio View Post
      1st time I see Hayata in this form.

      LGY: WTF? I thought this was the XD, not MD!

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