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      Quote Originally Posted by Lula View Post
      I think this thread started out well. Everyone that contribute with knowledge and try to help people are doing something good. Do not matter If a Guy is a coach in real life or a good player as long as the information is good and somewhat correct.

      I think it is wise for everyone to try to sort out information aswell.
      I think you have been around too much good table tennis to understand how much it matters to understand how much these tutorials can harm people who do not know where the teacher is coming from.
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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      I think you have been around too much good table tennis to understand how much it matters to understand how much these tutorials can harm people who do not know where the teacher is coming from.
      There is more in this statement than meets the eye.
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      EmRatThich seems to be a controversial video producer. Does anyone know who he is?

      I used to think that was his name but he explains that it means "I really like/love" as in I really like table tennis. I enjoy his videos and love it when he draws on a pad and his young daughter "helps". He seems a really nice chap who enjoys teaching table tennis.

      However- his view that the Chinese system is always best is annoying. I know that the top players are all Chinese but surely that is because they have a massive numbers of players and pick young children and train them for hours every day. Perhaps the fact that some players from Europe and other areas can reach the top 50 and yet probably have had a more normal childhood shows that our coaching is possibly better?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Silver smasher View Post
      EmRatThich seems to be a controversial video producer. Does anyone know who he is?

      I used to think that was his name but he explains that it means "I really like/love" as in I really like table tennis. I enjoy his videos and love it when he draws on a pad and his young daughter "helps". He seems a really nice chap who enjoys teaching table tennis.

      However- his view that the Chinese system is always best is annoying. I know that the top players are all Chinese but surely that is because they have a massive numbers of players and pick young children and train them for hours every day. Perhaps the fact that some players from Europe and other areas can reach the top 50 and yet probably have had a more normal childhood shows that our coaching is possibly better?
      I used to like and watch quite some ERT vid, but at some point got annoyed with the China vs west dichotomy. Why should we westerners still buy into that sh*** there is something so deeper and different in the Eastern culture and philosophy? Sure it's very ancient, but hence it also accrued as many superstitions and false beliefs as any other.

      Just listen to this podcast with Dan and Richard Prause where he went to China to discover the secret of their success in TT.. Only to see it's just friggin' hard, hard work. No magic tiger balm or philosphy.

      Back to topic:
      Two smaller German channels I've come to appreciate are smarTT and Tischtennis Tipps.


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      To say that western players have wrong technique is kinda stupid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear View Post
      To say that western players have wrong technique is kinda stupid.
      If there is more than one style it is in human nature to favor one of them and say other are worthless. People don't like concept of several equally viable options, because then they would have no efing idea which one to pursue. That's exactly why there are Apple fanboys or in case of table tennis Butterfly fanboys etc. That's also why there will be people who claim that only Chinese style is viable etc. We all know that truth is a little bit more complex as we know. Same as there is no best piece of equipment there should not be one single perfect style. It's all personal. I think that playing style is determined by your capabilities and one should persue whatever works for him or her.

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      "Chinese style". Because we all know that ML, FZD, and XX play the same style? Really???

      This is the kind of thing that is absurd about all this. Those three players are entirely different. Maybe the only thing is they all use hard tacky rubber on their forehand.

      What they mainly have in common is they were trained hard from very young age by good coaches and selected as the best of a bunch of talented players every few years from all over a country of 1.6 billion people in which TT is the national sport; a country where kids with TT talent are identified in elementary schools and with teams and leagues in every town and city.

      And the CNT is a constant ongoing thing with infrastructure no other country can match.

      Did Werner Schlager have a "Chinese loop"? If not why not?
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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      So, what exactly did that Swedish coach say...
      Your backswing should be the same speed as the ball coming at you.

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      I'd say once you have the basic mechanics down, Brett Clarke's videos are a great resource for understanding how you add more spin and power to your game. I didn't really understand the whip component of adding spin until I watched his videos.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      I think you have been around too much good table tennis to understand how much it matters to understand how much these tutorials can harm people who do not know where the teacher is coming from.
      You are understating the amount of harm that poorly chosen words or misunderstanding can cause even when the coach is there live, well-known, respected, highly competent, and trying their best. ALL coaching is buyer beware, not only online.

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