• Join our newsletter: 
  • Welcome Guest


    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 20 of 33
    1. Top | #1
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts

      How to top spin loop or drive a mid range / long range

      Hi , I just started playing table tennis and im progressing pretty well , but im having trouble figure out how to topspin loop/drive a mid range or long range ball.

      When do I contact the ball? ( i usually contact it when it starts to dip , i see alot of pros do this)

      Where do i contact the ball? ( oclock wise)

      How do i hit it? With open bat angle?

      Should i concentrate on the putting spin aspect or driving aspect onto the ball


      I use t05 both side on a zjk alc btw

      And if you guys can be specific with your answers that will be very helpful

      Thank you
      Last edited by Keven702; 2 Weeks Ago at 08:15 PM.

    2. Top | #2
      lVegita is offline
      says Useless posting
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: Brazil
      lVegita's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Butterfly Petr Korbel
      Forehand Rubber BH: Donic Bluefire M3
      Backhand Rubber FH: Donic Bluefire M2

      Join Date
      Sep 2018
      Posts
      404
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 407 Times in 199 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by Keven702 View Post
      Hi , I just started playing table tennis

      [...]

      I use t05 both side on a zjk alc btw

    3. The Following 5 Users Like lVegita's Post:

      Cktenders (1 Week Ago),Der_Echte (2 Weeks Ago),NextLevel (2 Weeks Ago),UpSideDownCarl (2 Weeks Ago),vik2000 (2 Weeks Ago)

    4. Top | #3
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by lVegita View Post
      Yea ,you probably thinking this set up too fast for a beginner like me but , not true , im doing well with it and its 1.9 both side btw

      Now ,any helpful tips?
      Last edited by Keven702; 2 Weeks Ago at 08:35 PM.

    5. Top | #4
      lVegita is offline
      says Useless posting
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: Brazil
      lVegita's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Butterfly Petr Korbel
      Forehand Rubber BH: Donic Bluefire M3
      Backhand Rubber FH: Donic Bluefire M2

      Join Date
      Sep 2018
      Posts
      404
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 407 Times in 199 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by Keven702 View Post
      Now ,any helpful tips?
      Not really

    6. Top | #5
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by lVegita View Post
      Not really
      Yea , I wasn't asking you , and yea from your first reply i can already tell.

    7. Top | #6
      BryanY is online now
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: United States
      BryanY's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade JOOLA Nobilis PBO-c
      Forehand Rubber JOOLA Rhyzer Pro 50
      Backhand Rubber JOOLA Rhyzer 43

      Join Date
      Feb 2018
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      342
      Reviews
      Read 1 Reviews
      Liked 131 Times in 101 Posts
      From distance I focus on having a very full stroke with lots of body rotation and weight transfer. I don’t really change my bat angle, but the stroke is more forward than usual.

      I like hitting at the top of the bounce if that’s available, but if I’m at distance then I have no choice but to contact the ball when it’s dropping.

    8. The Following User Likes BryanY's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago)

    9. Top | #7
      lVegita is offline
      says Useless posting
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: Brazil
      lVegita's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Butterfly Petr Korbel
      Forehand Rubber BH: Donic Bluefire M3
      Backhand Rubber FH: Donic Bluefire M2

      Join Date
      Sep 2018
      Posts
      404
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 407 Times in 199 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by Keven702 View Post
      Yea , I wasn't asking you , and yea from your first reply i can already tell.
      Oh, that’s rude. You should check rule 88 on the thread of rules.

    10. The Following 2 Users Like lVegita's Post:

      Atas Newton (1 Week Ago),bricec (1 Week Ago)

    11. Top | #8
      Lula is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Elite TTD Member Country: Sweden


      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Posts
      1,179
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 983 Times in 538 Posts
      I thin hou should hit the ball at the highest point because then you can hit harder because not as much arc is necessary. Maybe okey to let it drop a little But more difficult to play hard.

      You want to have a somewhat closed racket angle and brush on the top of the ball, over it.

      I think you always should try to get as much spin as possible. Spin makes the ball go in an arc then down so this give you alot of safety. Atleast when you are are offensive.

      Regarding your rubber and blade i think it can work But i think you Will have a much faster developement with slower stuff. I would suggest that when the rubber is worn out you go for something slower and bit softer like Maybe markv, rigan and Maybe some rakza soft. I Do not want to be rude But you Do not benefit from tenergy and is a waste of your money since your level Do not be so high yet. Better to use the money for coaching. That Will make you a better player. Tenergy Will not.

      Good luck!

    12. The Following 2 Users Like Lula's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago),lVegita (2 Weeks Ago)

    13. Top | #9
      suds79 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Senior TTD Member Country: United States
      suds79's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Gambler | Fire Dragon Fast - Penhold
      Forehand Rubber DHS | H3 Neo
      Backhand Rubber Dawei | 2008XP

      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Posts
      806
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 1,124 Times in 569 Posts
      Virtually impossible for us to give any insight on this one without seeing video of your play.
      My youtube channel of various games & highlights from club throughout the years:
      http://bit.ly/2NDjqd4

    14. The Following 3 Users Like suds79's Post:

      Der_Echte (2 Weeks Ago),phorkyas (2 Weeks Ago),UpSideDownCarl (2 Weeks Ago)

    15. Top | #10
      vik2000 is offline
      says Spin for life
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: Canada

      Equipment:
      Blade Nittaku Acoustic
      Forehand Rubber Andro Rasanter R53
      Backhand Rubber Tibhar Evolution MX-P

      Join Date
      Apr 2018
      Posts
      342
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 170 Times in 105 Posts
      If you want an advice, post a video of your play. It's impossible for us to offer anything substantive without seeing where you are making the error.

      You might as well just search YouTube and find way more useful videos covering this topic.

    16. The Following 2 Users Like vik2000's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago),UpSideDownCarl (2 Weeks Ago)

    17. Top | #11
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by lVegita View Post
      Oh, that’s rude. You should check rule 88 on the thread of rules.
      Glad you found that rude

    18. Top | #12
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
      Yea , i was search on youtube but didnt find much , only saw the one thst taught you how to topspin close table. I was wonder if there is any differences beween close to table loop or distance looping?

    19. Top | #13
      Der_Echte is offline
      says Grand Consultant to the Office
      of the Goon Squad
       
      Master TTD Member Country: South Korea
      Der_Echte's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Nexy Batos ALC
      Forehand Rubber Tibhar MX-K
      Backhand Rubber Tibhar FX-S

      Join Date
      Sep 2011
      Location
      Sacramento, USA
      Posts
      8,898
      Reviews
      Read 27 Reviews
      Liked 9,308 Times in 4,816 Posts
      We can say hit the ball at THIS point of the bounce in THIS way, but in reality, everything depends on the incoming ball, your position, your readiness and balance, what you want to do... you get the idea - everything isn't all setup perfect for you in a rally.

      You have to deal with what you have and where you are.

      Some common things are:

      - Swing forward, but up a little more than you would at the table
      - Put some power in your swing, you have more time for a larger swing
      - Bend knees, be ready to get down if the ball is gunna drop below the optimal height of center of impact zone
      - Do a tiny knee bend when opponent strikes the ball - it will help you move quickly
      - Plant and hit if you can
      - Impact ball in the center of your impact zone (not way in front/forward towards table)
      - Keep hand loose to control incoming spin, or firm it up right at impact to deliver more power to ball
      - Adjust with your bat angle - heavier incoming spin you have to close a little more
      - Don't rush, you have time
      - Don't over-think stuff - it will get U Rekt quicker than spit
      - You do not always have to go for 100% power - a 50% power shot can fly like 80% vs an incoming spinny ball
      President, Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club. Hit us up on TTD or Facebook
      http://www.facebook.com/koreaforeignttc

      Janitor at NexyUSA TT Equipment Shop
      http://www.nexyusa.com

      View our Lame Nexy USA corporate FB page
      http://www.facebook.com/nexyusa

    20. The Following 2 Users Like Der_Echte's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago),Takkyu_wa_inochi (2 Weeks Ago)

    21. Top | #14
      Der_Echte is offline
      says Grand Consultant to the Office
      of the Goon Squad
       
      Master TTD Member Country: South Korea
      Der_Echte's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Nexy Batos ALC
      Forehand Rubber Tibhar MX-K
      Backhand Rubber Tibhar FX-S

      Join Date
      Sep 2011
      Location
      Sacramento, USA
      Posts
      8,898
      Reviews
      Read 27 Reviews
      Liked 9,308 Times in 4,816 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by Keven
      Yea ,you probably thinking this set up too fast for a beginner like me but...
      What an experienced plyer thinks when he/she sees a new player with a high end BTY ALC blade and Tenergies… they tend to think a few or all of the below:

      - Dude hasn't learned how to feel the ball yet. WHY use a setup that is tough to feel when not struck right?
      - Dude has not yet learned how to cope with spin, but has selected a very spin sensitive setup
      - Dude does not yet have 10% of the skills to use T05effectively, even 2000 USATT level players have only 60% of the needed skills
      - Dude done spent $300 large and would play exact same level with a $30 bat from Colestt.com
      - Did dude buy the expensive setup to impress other newbs?
      - Is dude a BTY fanboy already?
      - Who the F$%#@&** recommended this bat?
      - Where did dude learn that Tenergy is the best rubber for an amateur?
      - Is this dude from USA? Gotta be.


      Personally I think everyone should play with what they like and enjoy the sport in the manner they wish... but if a player is serious about improving to whatever is considered a decent level, then starting out with a bat like that is usually not gunna get it done.

      Still, if a player in not in a situation to get competent coaching, or doesn't want it, then that player will likely never learn the basic fundamental skills. Even if the new player got an appropriate bat for a beginner, without competent coaching and development, they play will not learn how to move, how to strike, how to read spin, tactics, how to adjust, how to compete... you get the idea.

      A player not getting effective coaching isn't going too far in TT anyway, so it doesn't really matter if the new player with quadruple overkill on the equipment.

    22. The Following 6 Users Like Der_Echte's Post:

      Atas Newton (1 Week Ago),Hysteresis (2 Weeks Ago),lVegita (2 Weeks Ago),NextLevel (1 Week Ago),Takkyu_wa_inochi (2 Weeks Ago),Wister (2 Weeks Ago)

    23. Top | #15
      yogi_bear is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Equipment Expert
      Master TTD Member Country: Philippines
      yogi_bear's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom Offensive S; Tmount T540; Xiom Vega Euro
      Forehand Rubber Kokutaku 007 Pro; Hurricane 3; Tibhar MX-S
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega 7 Hyper; Stiga DNA H; Joola Maxxx 500

      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Location
      Philippines
      Posts
      3,419
      Reviews
      Read 77 Reviews
      Liked 1,640 Times in 1,039 Posts
      If against topspin, contact upper right side of the ball.

    24. Top | #16
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Krooklyn District Goon Squad
      Commissioner
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red F-XP
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black M-XP

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      12,381
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 14,081 Times in 6,709 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by Keven702 View Post
      Hi , I just started playing table tennis and im progressing pretty well , but im having trouble figure out how to topspin loop/drive a mid range or long range ball.

      When do I contact the ball? ( i usually contact it when it starts to dip , i see alot of pros do this)

      Where do i contact the ball? ( oclock wise)

      How do i hit it? With open bat angle?

      Should i concentrate on the putting spin aspect or driving aspect onto the ball


      I use t05 both side on a zjk alc btw

      And if you guys can be specific with your answers that will be very helpful

      Thank you
      For you to get advice that is even remotely useful to you, you should go ahead and film yourself and post footage of it here so people can see what you are actually doing.
      Spin Everything.

    25. The Following 2 Users Like UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago),Takkyu_wa_inochi (2 Weeks Ago)

    26. Top | #17
      Keven702 is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      TTD Member Country: United States


      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      28
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
      @der ecthe , I understand why people are concerned about the set up , but let me talk about my situation. I started playing table tennis with my friend who is about 2000 rating and used to play at jr olympics lent me timoboll alc with t05 both side . He taught me how to top spin the ball. But now he quit . So now a club i joined sets me up with the older people to play. Problem with that they just want to have long rallies with you close to table for exercise.
      I am consistant with both forehand and and back hand , its just i never have too much experience with long range looping . On the few occasions that i do see long range balls they seem to hit differently . So that why I'm asking how do you guys hit your long range balls.

      And also i had a couple coaching lesson from liu juan and she said my looping is fine , i just have to keep my elbow alittle closer to my body.
      Last edited by Keven702; 2 Weeks Ago at 02:18 AM.

    27. Top | #18
      Takkyu_wa_inochi is online now
      says Petit Scarabée
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Japan

      Equipment:
      Blade Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 80
      Backhand Rubber Butterfly Spin Art

      Join Date
      Jan 2016
      Location
      Tokyo
      Posts
      2,566
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 2,899 Times in 1,413 Posts
      there are many things to say and i have no idea about your technique

      I'm at a higher level than you probably, so the following is maybe not whats most important for you, but here is some general advice:

      - always keep a good posture. stay low on your legs, upper body leaning forward
      - always try to hit the ball in front of you, not on the side, you will have less or not enough power. Keep this mindset of always trying to hit the ball forward.
      - to make it more natural to hit the ball in front of me, i like to have my arm a bit stretched in front of me in the neutral position, it helps me visualize the idea hitting zone
      - it is not so important to hit the ball hard and make a big swing, timing and technique are more important. Stay relaxed except at impact where you can tighten your grip just a little bit. contract abs when hitting the ball.
      - use power from the legs and waist. use momentum (arm lever effect)
      - recover quickly for the next shot
      - try to make the contact with the racket covering the ball, and you can use a bit your wrist to add a little spin, but don't over do it.
      Last edited by Takkyu_wa_inochi; 2 Weeks Ago at 04:34 AM.

    28. The Following 2 Users Like Takkyu_wa_inochi's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago),splasher78 (1 Week Ago)

    29. Top | #19
      Lula is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Elite TTD Member Country: Sweden


      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Posts
      1,179
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 983 Times in 538 Posts
      If you mean looping at a long distance from the table i think it is basically the same as close to the table, Maybe a little more body and a bit more upward with the stroke.

      I also think you should avoid being far away from table at all cost. Training loop loop is more cool than it actually help you win points.

      If you want to play far away, become a defender.

    30. The Following User Likes Lula's Post:

      thekleifheit13 (2 Weeks Ago)

    31. Top | #20
      zeio is offline
      says IQ < 100
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Hong Kong
      zeio's Avatar

      Join Date
      Jan 2018
      Posts
      3,702
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 5,546 Times in 2,306 Posts

    32. The Following User Likes zeio's Post:

      Keven702 (2 Weeks Ago)

    Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    Log in or Register
    BACK TO TOP