Adivice on Zhangjike ALC forehand choice

victorwei · Dec 11, 2019

I am playing Zhang ALC Chinese penholder grip, I used to use Neo hurricane 3 blue provincial. But now I am decided to try a non-Chinese rubber. I have the following choices:
1) Butterfly Roundell (or hard).
2) Xiom Vega China (79-024)
3) Tibhar K1 Plus (blue package).

I prefer roundell because I use Joola X-polde sensitive as my backhand rubber. therefore balance is good for this combination. any suggestions or alternatives you could advice on these choices?

chintanmashroo · Dec 11, 2019

If you're looking for a controlled hard offensive rubber, you might want to look into below:

Donic Coppa Jo Gold
Nittaku Flyatt Hard
Yasaka Valmo
Victas V402 Double Extra
Victas V01 Stiff

keep in mind, if you move from chinese tacky rubbers to non-tacky ones; it is not a easy transition and may require substantial practice hours.

Hope this helps

Cheers

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victorwei · Dec 11, 2019

All the rubber choices you listed I never played or heared of it. I would keen on you do the one on one of my choices listed above.

SFF_lib · Dec 12, 2019

I played ZJK ALC Cpen before. I have used Vega China and K1 Plus. Both have better control but worse spin than H3. I would say Vega China is easier to play than K1 Plus.

victorwei said:
I am playing Zhang ALC Chinese penholder grip, I used to use Neo hurricane 3 blue provincial. But now I am decided to try a non-Chinese rubber. I have the following choices:
1) Butterfly Roundell (or hard).
2) Xiom Vega China (79-024)
3) Tibhar K1 Plus (blue package).

I prefer roundell because I use Joola X-polde sensitive as my backhand rubber. therefore balance is good for this combination. any suggestions or alternatives you could advice on these choices?

yogi_bear · Dec 12, 2019

Vega China. I used to like Spin Art on that blade too.

Cornerer · Dec 12, 2019

If you can find Tibhar K2 it's simply a better rubber than K1 plus.

Roundell isn't close to the other 2 you mentioned. Spin Art is prob what you want from Butterfly as a semi-tacky rubber though it's twice as expensive.

Victas also just released a VJC>07 rubber that is also a bit tacky. V402 is very spinny and prob spinnier than VJC>07, but pretty slow in exchange.
Joola also has the Golden Tango/Tango PS which are semi-tacky as well. Non-PS Tango might be too slow for you though.

My personal recommendation would be K2 as it offers way more speed than the rest above while spin is around middle of the pack.

victorwei · Dec 13, 2019

Cornerer said:
If you can find Tibhar K2 it's simply a better rubber than K1 plus.

Roundell isn't close to the other 2 you mentioned. Spin Art is prob what you want from Butterfly as a semi-tacky rubber though it's twice as expensive.

Victas also just released a VJC>07 rubber that is also a bit tacky. V402 is very spinny and prob spinnier than VJC>07, but pretty slow in exchange.
Joola also has the Golden Tango/Tango PS which are semi-tacky as well. Non-PS Tango might be too slow for you though.

My personal recommendation would be K2 as it offers way more speed than the rest above while spin is around middle of the pack.

Thanks guys, I will try K2

Lula · Dec 13, 2019

Why Do you want to change?

SFF_lib · Dec 13, 2019

K2 sponge is much harder though. K1 pro has the best performance overall - easier to engage the sponge, tackier topsheet and better control than K2. That's why K1 pro costs more than K2. The only good thing about K2 is speed.

Cornerer said:
If you can find Tibhar K2 it's simply a better rubber than K1 plus.

Roundell isn't close to the other 2 you mentioned. Spin Art is prob what you want from Butterfly as a semi-tacky rubber though it's twice as expensive.

Victas also just released a VJC>07 rubber that is also a bit tacky. V402 is very spinny and prob spinnier than VJC>07, but pretty slow in exchange.
Joola also has the Golden Tango/Tango PS which are semi-tacky as well. Non-PS Tango might be too slow for you though.

My personal recommendation would be K2 as it offers way more speed than the rest above while spin is around middle of the pack.

Cornerer · Dec 13, 2019

SFF_lib said:
K2 sponge is much harder though. K1 pro has the best performance overall - easier to engage the sponge, tackier topsheet and better control than K2. That's why K1 pro costs more than K2. The only good thing about K2 is speed.

not sure if the K1 pro I borrowed was too old but it had definitely less power(spin and speed) my own K2 which was 2 months old at the time of comparison and the extra tack of K1 didn't exactly help spinning for me either. Also K2 even with its 54deg sponge is much easier to use than most other 50/54deg-sponge hybrid rubbers on market, including K1 from my preference.

Maybe I need grab myself a brand new sheet of K1 pro for proper conclusion.

SFF_lib · Dec 13, 2019

That's interesting. K1 is meant to be the easiest one to use among the entire "K" family.

Maybe you are right. Time is a factor. My K1 has lost some noticeable spin after 2 months of usage. It's still tacky, I wonder if the sponge is losing the "boosting" effect which is linked to the spin.

Cornerer said:
not sure if the K1 pro I borrowed was too old but it had definitely less power(spin and speed) my own K2 which was 2 months old at the time of comparison and the extra tack of K1 didn't exactly help spinning for me either. Also K2 even with its 54deg sponge is much easier to use than most other 50/54deg-sponge hybrid rubbers on market, including K1 from my preference.

Maybe I need grab myself a brand new sheet of K1 pro for proper conclusion.

ade14212 · Dec 13, 2019

Get Mercury 2, boost it. In 2-3 month, get a new sheet and boost it. It's wonderful and cheap too. You can give the used rubber to others.
Boosted Mercury plays just as wonderful as G-1, imho. I changed from G-1 to Mercury 2. I have no regret.

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