• Join our newsletter: 
  • Welcome Guest


    Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
    Results 41 to 60 of 63
    1. Top | #41
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      I have been looking back at some videos and thinking and maybe I have just had a bad few weeks. Tired, crap old tables always affect me.

      I generally play very well with Force Pro Blue and Tenergy and SP.
      Maybe I should just get a second Force Pro Blue and experiment with max tenergy, that might help spin generation.
      Or maybe have a second one with Hurricane, I really find it next too impossible to play on slow old slippy spinless tables.

      Honestly I liked and played like a poor novice last few times, but I think maybe it was just rubbish conditions.

      Although I must just get a Nittaku Latika as it sounds like an Infinity with less hollow feel and I like Infinity apart from that stupid hollowness.

      Quote Originally Posted by Lula View Post
      I think that you need to decide a little more What to focus on. Forehand or baxkhand. Hard to find a blade that is good for both inverted or short pimple.

      And like i Said you can adjust with rubbers. I have tb zlc that is very Good for smashing But not as good for loooping i think so try to compensate with not having the hardest inverted rubber.

      Also think like Carl that it could be more or less techniqe aswell.

    2. Top | #42
      Lula is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Elite TTD Member Country: Sweden


      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Posts
      1,248
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 1,044 Times in 569 Posts
      Then my final advice for you is to buy a second force blade then save the money. I think your equipment sounds good. Just stop buying more things now.

      Equipment affect your game But i think as long as the blade are not rockhard you can create spin well.

      You seem very motivated and i Do not how you train so i Do not want to be rude here But i feel it seems a little like you want to find a short cut to get more spin.

      Use your current racket, it is good! Then work on creating more spin with the technique instead. Really good players can get great spin as long as it is grip in the rubber.

      Try closing the angle, brush more, thinner and accelerate/snap the forearm

      If you Do not feel that you are getting better at it. Then buy your now big pool of saved money from not buying equipment to find a coach or a better player that could be interested in helping you.

      Maybe you can post a video of your looping here.

      I think it is time to move the focus from equipment to technique.

      Looking forward for this adventure!!

    3. The Following 2 Users Like Lula's Post:

      MOG (01-17-2020),UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    4. Top | #43
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      Ok I will post a video of me looping. There might be something fundamentally wrong with my looping. It would be fair to say I only learnt to loop in last 4 or 5 years.
      Previous to that I always flat hit everything!!

    5. Top | #44
      NextLevel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Nigeria

      Equipment:
      Blade Stiga Carbonado 190
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard
      Backhand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard

      Join Date
      Oct 2014
      Location
      Somewhere Good in the US
      Posts
      8,490
      Reviews
      Read 16 Reviews
      Liked 12,806 Times in 5,681 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      Ok I will post a video of me looping. There might be something fundamentally wrong with my looping. It would be fair to say I only learnt to loop in last 4 or 5 years.
      Previous to that I always flat hit everything!!
      This is not the way it is works. Everyone caps out at a specific level where the amount of training they need to improve or to maintain their best level is only possible I'd they are pro or semi-pro. If you are really serious about improvement it is going to come down to relentless practice and analysis of your game play and technique and improving all those. But it is easier and possibly more fun to EJ.
      Cobra Kai TT Exponent - No mercy in this dojo, no matter your rating or the score. All spin, no power or footwork.

    6. The Following User Likes NextLevel's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    7. Top | #45
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      My biggest problem is still return of serve and service.
      I have seen 12 year old's who played a year return serve better than me.

      My return of serve is like Bottom Division local league.
      My own serve is like bottom division local league.

      The rest of my game is Top division local league.

      There is no way I have maxed out on my potential yet, no way. I lose 90% of my games by 2 or 3 points or maybe 4 points. In 99.9% of sets i play i do this. If i returned 2 or 3 more serves a set and dropped 1 or 2 unforced errors I would improve massively.

      I make more unforced errors than any Division player I have ever seen.

      I return on average 40 - 50% of my opponents serves. Most of these serves are illegal but lets not go there again.


      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      This is not the way it is works. Everyone caps out at a specific level where the amount of training they need to improve or to maintain their best level is only possible I'd they are pro or semi-pro. If you are really serious about improvement it is going to come down to relentless practice and analysis of your game play and technique and improving all those. But it is easier and possibly more fun to EJ.

    8. Top | #46
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Krooklyn District Goon Squad
      Commissioner
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red F-XP
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black M-XP

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      12,640
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 14,332 Times in 6,847 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear View Post
      In MOG's case which he is kinda particular on a blade, he should just try a lot of blades to see which he will like.
      The issue with this is, he already has tried a lot of blades, wait, A LOT OF BLADES. And it is pretty common for him to try a setup, beat someone who he does not always beat and then think it was the blade instead of him having a good day. So now he gets that setup, only to find, 2 weeks later, that the shine has worn off and then he tries something else and wins against another player he sometimes struggles with, and then this is the new holy grail of setups....well, for the next few weeks.

      And then he says he does not want to EJ too much because he has kids and does not spend $$ irresponsibly. But then, 3 weeks later, he has found a new bling, or the shine on the old one has worn off.

      I think MOG has tried enough blades to choose one that he tried and stick with it. I don't mean this to be harsh even though it sounds it. I just don't think the issue is the equipment and the more we dance around the real issue by actually talking about equipment, the more we do a disservice to him.

      MOG is a good player who wants a magical fix to an issue that is technique and practice related. If I was going to give him a real assessment, I would say he should switch back to smooth rubber and learn to return serves with his BH, OR, he should stick with SP and learn to use them like SP and not try to use them like smooth while compensating for footwork on return of serve on BH side.

      Either solution would be fine. But I think how MOG is approaching the situation is really giving himself some emotional and self confidence issues.
      Spin Everything.

    9. The Following 2 Users Like UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      Ioiettino (01-18-2020),splasher78 (01-18-2020)

    10. Top | #47
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Krooklyn District Goon Squad
      Commissioner
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red F-XP
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black M-XP

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      12,640
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 14,332 Times in 6,847 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by NextLevel View Post
      This is not the way it is works. Everyone caps out at a specific level where the amount of training they need to improve or to maintain their best level is only possible I'd they are pro or semi-pro. If you are really serious about improvement it is going to come down to relentless practice and analysis of your game play and technique and improving all those. But it is easier and possibly more fun to EJ.
      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      My biggest problem is still return of serve and service.
      I have seen 12 year old's who played a year return serve better than me.

      My return of serve is like Bottom Division local league.
      My own serve is like bottom division local league.

      The rest of my game is Top division local league.

      There is no way I have maxed out on my potential yet, no way. I lose 90% of my games by 2 or 3 points or maybe 4 points. In 99.9% of sets i play i do this. If i returned 2 or 3 more serves a set and dropped 1 or 2 unforced errors I would improve massively.

      I make more unforced errors than any Division player I have ever seen.

      I return on average 40 - 50% of my opponents serves. Most of these serves are illegal but lets not go there again.
      The footwork and the return of serve are not separate. I have seen you try to return many many serves on BH side, at your switching point by moving your arm and not your feet. And then the result is a poor shot or a miss. I have also seen you reach wide for many serve returns on BH side without moving your feet with similar results.

      To get your feet moving before the serve, it takes practice. When you watch high level players, when the opponent tosses the ball, they start moving. Often that is that they go from very low to higher, and while they do that, they start moving to where the serve is going. Lots of amateurs, while the opponent is tossing the ball for the serve, they are standing low, but flat footed and don't try to move till after the ball is heading towards them, WHICH IS actually TOO LATE.

      It takes practice to start moving on the toss. But it is much easier to move your feet when they are already moving than to go from flat footed to moving your feet.

      And I agree, your rally skills are pretty decent. Your serve and receive need work. I am curious why you never do different serves like pendulum, tomahawk or others rather than that serve you do from the FH side most of the time. I would work on new serves and I would work on return of serves.

      I do think, if you focused on those two things, your game skill level would increase pretty noticeably. And I promise blade and rubbers won't increase your skill at return of serves even if SP help you get more serves on the table, the skill in your hand has not changed as a result of the rubber.

      So, if I was you, that is what I would focus on. Then you can treat your kids to more nice things since you won't need the extra money for more new TT equipment.

      My daughter really appreciates that my TT addiction does not stop me from coming home with surprises for her when I want.
      Last edited by UpSideDownCarl; 01-17-2020 at 04:56 PM.

    11. The Following 2 Users Like UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      Flatstyk (01-17-2020),splasher78 (01-18-2020)

    12. Top | #48
      Dream2K is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Established TTD Member Country: United States

      Equipment:
      Blade Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Special Edition
      Forehand Rubber Nittaku Fastarc G-1
      Backhand Rubber Andro Hexer Grip

      Join Date
      Oct 2019
      Posts
      117
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 39 Times in 24 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      My biggest problem is still return of serve and service.
      I have seen 12 year old's who played a year return serve better than me.

      My return of serve is like Bottom Division local league.
      My own serve is like bottom division local league.

      The rest of my game is Top division local league.

      ....

      I return on average 40 - 50% of my opponents serves. Most of these serves are illegal but lets not go there again.
      Drill serve and serve return non-stop then.

    13. The Following User Likes Dream2K's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    14. Top | #49
      NextLevel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Nigeria

      Equipment:
      Blade Stiga Carbonado 190
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard
      Backhand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard

      Join Date
      Oct 2014
      Location
      Somewhere Good in the US
      Posts
      8,490
      Reviews
      Read 16 Reviews
      Liked 12,806 Times in 5,681 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      My biggest problem is still return of serve and service.
      I have seen 12 year old's who played a year return serve better than me.

      My return of serve is like Bottom Division local league.
      My own serve is like bottom division local league.

      The rest of my game is Top division local league.

      There is no way I have maxed out on my potential yet, no way. I lose 90% of my games by 2 or 3 points or maybe 4 points. In 99.9% of sets i play i do this. If i returned 2 or 3 more serves a set and dropped 1 or 2 unforced errors I would improve massively.

      I make more unforced errors than any Division player I have ever seen.

      I return on average 40 - 50% of my opponents serves. Most of these serves are illegal but lets not go there again.

      I do think you could benefit from a more hard nosed analysis of your game. Since serve and return of serve are the two most frequently used shots in the game, there is no point if your game is high quality if the two most important shots that you use on every single point andn which influence your ability to get other shots are under practiced and low quality. It took years of serve work to get to a level where I could beat a certain level.of player just by serving and it insulated my.results against wild variability.

      On the flip side, my return of serve, partly because I am an adult learner who doesn't intuitively read spin, is a bit behind the rest of my game. That said, I know I need to invest a week of intensive coaching on it at some point. It isn't just the return of serve but the anticipation to play the point out when the return is not perfect. Also where to place the ball.in general and when to stay at the table.and when to step back.

      In any case your post reveals a lot, as it is unlikely that the equipment you use is playing such a huge role in serve and serve return and you never ask about it with that focus. Yet it is exactly the focus on serve and serve return that usually separates better players from intermediate players.

    15. The Following User Likes NextLevel's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    16. Top | #50
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      Wow, you guys are tough.

      I feel like, Simon it's a 12 step program, the first one is clearly accepting that you have the problem.

      Well I did not order any new blades today or rubbers, so that is progress!!

      I am also considering going back to reversed on my bh, but this I will probably not do!! Although I do miss a good backhand topspin opener!!

    17. Top | #51
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      To be honest some days I return serves quite well, a lot better than others. I am not sure what the connects bad serve return days and good ones.

      TBH I think I return better on good modern new tables, because the opponents spin bites more which gives you a lot more indication of spin.

      Carl some days I do not move at all on serve receive, other days I am better.

      Perhaps I am more affected by tiredness or my mood than I realise, I am not sure.

      It is all very fascinating really.

    18. The Following User Likes MOG's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    19. Top | #52
      NextLevel is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Nigeria

      Equipment:
      Blade Stiga Carbonado 190
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard
      Backhand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard

      Join Date
      Oct 2014
      Location
      Somewhere Good in the US
      Posts
      8,490
      Reviews
      Read 16 Reviews
      Liked 12,806 Times in 5,681 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      To be honest some days I return serves quite well, a lot better than others. I am not sure what the connects bad serve return days and good ones.

      TBH I think I return better on good modern new tables, because the opponents spin bites more which gives you a lot more indication of spin.

      Carl some days I do not move at all on serve receive, other days I am better.

      Perhaps I am more affected by tiredness or my mood than I realise, I am not sure.

      It is all very fascinating really.
      Ever heard of the concepts of variance/standard deviation and regression to the mean? As in that you don't play the same way all the time but good days are often followed by a return to the average and bad days by a return to the average?

    20. The Following User Likes NextLevel's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-17-2020)

    21. Top | #53
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      No nextlevel but it makes sense.

      My outliers are just so far out.

    22. Top | #54
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      Handles definately cause me issues.
      Last edited by MOG; 01-18-2020 at 04:48 PM.

    23. Top | #55
      RidTheKid is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Sweden

      Equipment:
      Blade DHS W968
      Forehand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National
      Backhand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National (Blue Sponge)

      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Location
      Stockholm
      Posts
      1,621
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 1,110 Times in 616 Posts
      Practice more, the rest is irrelevant.

    24. The Following User Likes RidTheKid's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-18-2020)

    25. Top | #56
      MOG is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Advanced TTD Member Country: England

      Equipment:
      Blade Donic Waldner Offensive 2016, Tibhar Force Pro Blue
      Forehand Rubber Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX
      Backhand Rubber Spinlord Keiler

      Join Date
      Nov 2016
      Posts
      366
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 84 Times in 64 Posts
      I disagree RidtheKid

      Handle comfort is a massive factor in blade selection. If the blade is annoying you its going to affect your concentration.

    26. Top | #57
      RidTheKid is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Sweden

      Equipment:
      Blade DHS W968
      Forehand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National
      Backhand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National (Blue Sponge)

      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Location
      Stockholm
      Posts
      1,621
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 1,110 Times in 616 Posts
      That doesn't change my belief since I know what I'm talking about. There's no perfect handle, you SHOULD know this by now. No blade or rubber can compensate for lack of practice. There's no skill embedded in a blade or rubber that will come out when you use it. There's no shortcut. Why do you think the Chinese practice 5-7 hours a day?

      You think I'm joking that Waldner can beat us with a book? That actually happened, to a journalist here in Sweden and it's on youtube. Waldner almost beat the guy with a frigging banana! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed9eL1VPiiM



      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      I disagree RidtheKid

      Handle comfort is a massive factor in blade selection. If the blade is annoying you its going to affect your concentration.

    27. The Following User Likes RidTheKid's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-18-2020)

    28. Top | #58
      yogi_bear is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Equipment Expert
      Master TTD Member Country: Philippines
      yogi_bear's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade Xiom Offensive S; Tmount T540; Xiom Vega Euro
      Forehand Rubber Kokutaku 007 Pro; Hurricane 3; Tibhar MX-S
      Backhand Rubber Xiom Omega 7 Hyper; Stiga DNA H; Joola Maxxx 500

      Join Date
      Jan 2012
      Location
      Philippines
      Posts
      3,842
      Reviews
      Read 77 Reviews
      Liked 1,839 Times in 1,181 Posts
      If a handle will make you perform better due to comfort why not search for it. To each his own. Every person has his own preference.

    29. Top | #59
      RidTheKid is offline
      This user has no status.
       
      Master TTD Member Country: Sweden

      Equipment:
      Blade DHS W968
      Forehand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National
      Backhand Rubber DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National (Blue Sponge)

      Join Date
      Oct 2016
      Location
      Stockholm
      Posts
      1,621
      Reviews
      Read 0 Reviews
      Liked 1,110 Times in 616 Posts
      Very true. But what's the name of this thread? Is it about handles or...? The answer is that there will seemingly always be another issue that bothers the gentleman who started this thread regarding equipment and I think that is masking the real problem which is too little practice or wrong kind of practice. Instead of getting to the bottom of the problem people are giving advice what blade or rubber to get when in fact the only thing in the world that will make you a better player is practice. Sure it's not my business but this is a forum where things are discussed and this specific thread got me triggered. At the club we rarely talk equipment and to me that feels like a professional approach.

    30. The Following User Likes RidTheKid's Post:

      UpSideDownCarl (01-18-2020)

    31. Top | #60
      UpSideDownCarl is online now
      says Krooklyn District Goon Squad
      Commissioner
       
      Equipment Expert
      Super Moderator Country: United States
      UpSideDownCarl's Avatar
      Equipment:
      Blade OSP Virtuoso +
      Forehand Rubber BH:Red F-XP
      Backhand Rubber FH:Black M-XP

      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      Location
      Brooklyn, New York
      Posts
      12,640
      Reviews
      Read 11 Reviews
      Liked 14,332 Times in 6,847 Posts
      Quote Originally Posted by RidTheKid View Post
      The answer is that there will seemingly always be another issue that bothers the gentleman who started this thread regarding equipment and I think that is masking the real problem which is too little practice or wrong kind of practice.
      I am not even sure the problem is too little practice. It may be. I definitely think the remedy is training and practice, so I think, RTK, you are very close to the issue, and therefore, mostly right. But I have a feeling there are hints of the real issue in this comment:

      Quote Originally Posted by MOG View Post
      I have been looking back at some videos and thinking and maybe I have just had a bad few weeks. Tired, crap old tables always affect me.
      I think, in this, you can see some of the real problem which is also why I point towards the psychological rather than something else. When MOG loses he blames it on something: equipment, tables, floors, conditions. No need to examine that the other player is subject to the same conditions.

      Now I do understand some players are affected by conditions more than others. And that, usually this is the result of TRAINING, or lack thereof. So, regardless of the underlying issue, I do think the remedy is still practice and training. Not the racket, not the rubbers, not the floor, not the tables, the remedy is better training strategies.

      So, here is the real question at hand:

      MOG, if you were to quantify time spent on:

      1) match play
      2) training and well thought out strategies to improve on the aspects of your game that you have long known are holding you back
      3) working with a coach

      How much time per week would you say you spend on each? Do you spend any time on trying to train and improve the issues you have known for quite a while are holding you back?

      If you were spending 3/4 of your time on training and 1/4 of your time on match play, for the things you have going on, my guess is, the issues about equipment would start to go away.

      I am pretty sure you don't work with a coach and I understand the $$$ constraints. But it would probably cost less to get a little coaching than it costs you to keep changing equipment every few weeks. However, with good training partners, you can probably get around this. So, I do think that part is up to you. It is just finding and cultivating the training partner or partners: others who also want to work on their weaknesses and improve just as you do.

      In the end we all do this for fun. But a little investment OF TIME on improving the things that need improving would save you a lot of money on equipment.
      Last edited by UpSideDownCarl; 01-18-2020 at 02:54 PM.

    32. The Following User Likes UpSideDownCarl's Post:

      RidTheKid (01-18-2020)

    Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

    Tags for this Thread

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    Log in or Register
    BACK TO TOP