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They're still being rather optimistic, then.

Maybe but they got to get the thing done. 2022 is a World Cup year, obviously can't go any farther than that, and it makes most sense to still try to do it in the summer to keep the spirit of things. There are other major tournaments as well to plan around, expect those to be affected too.
 
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Maybe but they got to get the thing done. 2022 is a World Cup year, obviously can't go any farther than that, and it makes most sense to still try to do it in the summer to keep the spirit of things. There are other major tournaments as well to plan around, expect those to be affected too.

I don't think it necessarily true that getting the thing done should be the only, or even the first, priority.

Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. This may not yet be the moment to do so, given that people need time to deny, be furious, try bargaining themselves out of the pit, be engulfed in sadness prior to being able to accept that loss. Yet maintaining that we can and must make up for all things we cannot do now seems a folly, even at this point, to me.

We're having a crisis. It's severe. Some events, no matter how much we were looking forward to them, cannot be held now. Let's accept that, and move on whenever we can start moving again.
 
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I don't think it necessarily true that getting the thing done should be the only, or even the first, priority.

Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. This may not yet be the moment to do so, given that people need time to deny, be furious, try bargaining themselves out of the pit, be engulfed in sadness prior to being able to accept that loss. Yet maintaining what we can and must make up for all things we cannot do now seems a folly, even at this point, to me.

We're having a crisis. It's severe. Some events, no matter how much we were looking forward to them, cannot be held now. Let's accept that, and move on whenever we can start moving again.

Agreed but it is not unreasonable to think this thing may be under control in a year and we'll be able to hold an event like the Olympics. It is not easy to simply cut the losses here, so of course they will try to the alternative option first. If for some reason 2021 still can't work out, then I think after that it won't happen.
 
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From what I understand, they gotta get that timer ticking!

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I don't think it necessarily true that getting the thing done should be the only, or even the first, priority.

Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. This may not yet be the moment to do so, given that people need time to deny, be furious, try bargaining themselves out of the pit, be engulfed in sadness prior to being able to accept that loss. Yet maintaining that we can and must make up for all things we cannot do now seems a folly, even at this point, to me.

We're having a crisis. It's severe. Some events, no matter how much we were looking forward to them, cannot be held now. Let's accept that, and move on whenever we can start moving again.

There were no Olympics during WW2 and right now the world is in a war with a pandemic virus and we dont know how long it will take. A year is a long time but this is completely uncharted territory.
 
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This virus is weird and unpredictable. One of my colleagues is a kidney specialist (my area also). He has a transplant patient with Covid 19. Ought to be the worst possible thing because thse patients are filled with various immunosuppressive drugs to prevent rejection of the transplant. This patient mainly has diarrhea but for now is doing ok. He has another 38 year old previously healthy patient in an ICU with bad respiratory issues whose kidneys are not very functional at the moment.


You just don't know how this might affect someone
 
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I don't think it necessarily true that getting the thing done should be the only, or even the first, priority.

Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. This may not yet be the moment to do so, given that people need time to deny, be furious, try bargaining themselves out of the pit, be engulfed in sadness prior to being able to accept that loss. Yet maintaining that we can and must make up for all things we cannot do now seems a folly, even at this point, to me.

We're having a crisis. It's severe. Some events, no matter how much we were looking forward to them, cannot be held now. Let's accept that, and move on whenever we can start moving again.

There are many things they have to balance. There are many interests involved and they (IOC) will not get compensated by insurance companies unless they make every attempt possible to hold the Olympics.
 
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There were no Olympics during WW2 and right now the world is in a war with a pandemic virus and we dont know how long it will take. A year is a long time but this is completely uncharted territory.


Yes, which is why if things suck in a year, they can cancel then again. Finding the right balance is hard, but not living life has consequences.
 
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Agree. But I think we'll make that date because I think we'll have a vaccine (maybe this one, accelerated to market doing this), not to mention a better understanding of the virus clinically and epidemiologically, and probably several therapeutic options.

If I was a betting man this is what I would put my money on.
 
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And now for something completely different....
...your rights being removed...
1) NY Governor Cuomo considers banning smoking for 6 weeks. I don't smoke, however, those cows have been out of that barn for years
2) Rhode Island Governor preventing Interstate Commerce with their National Guard stopping NY vehicles crossing the state line. 10-4 good buddy, let those truckers roll...

So Der_Echte, you being reactivated?
 
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This New York doctor claims he has used hydroxychloroquine+zinc sulfate+azithromycin to treat 500 patients with 100% success rate。
Too good to be true?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gl...-successful-treatment-coronavirus/5708056/amp

I commented up above on what actually needs to be included in a publishable case report, which is the lowest standard of evidence in the medical literature. (Comment #680 pg 34). And this guy has provided nothing.

These drugs may work, we'll know soon enough by work that has actually been done properly, but this guy looks like a snake oil salesman.

Clue #1. Any time a physician claims to have a "100% success rate" at treating ANYTHING, they are lying or bad doctors. Run away very fast. Heed my advice on this. Clinical trials of the best attested drugs known to humankind do not ever yield a 100% success rate.

Edit added. This appeared on a website that also claims that the WHO faked the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2009. I note here for people whose cognitive functions are reality-based that H1N1 is an influenza virus that jumped from animals to humans here in the US and then went on to infect most of the world causing massive loss of life.
 
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Utah Medical Association retracts malaria drugs recommendation for coronavirus patients
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/utah-medical-association-retracts-malaria-drugs-re/

FDA authorizes widespread use of unproven drugs to treat coronavirus, saying possible benefit outweighs risk
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/30/coronavirus-drugs-hydroxychloroquin-chloroquine/

Given the above, may as well...

Lianhuaqingwen exerts anti-viral and anti-inflammatory activity against novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104366182030743X?via=ihub#fig0015
 
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There was an initial report from a group in Marseilles on hydroxychloroquine. However as soon as people started looking a little closer at the methods and data the usual response was WTF, and it turns out the senior author is also Chief Editor of the journal where it was published.
 
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There was an initial report from a group in Marseilles on hydroxychloroquine. However as soon as people started looking a little closer at the methods and data the usual response was WTF, and it turns out the senior author is also Chief Editor of the journal where it was published.

So is it effective or placebo?
 
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So Der_Echte, you being reactivated?

Not that I am aware of... if Der_Echte somehow DID get put back on active service, they would need to bring a heavy-duty forklift with them to accomplish that task... then they would need to deal with the random push-ups, uphill interval runs, and gorilla drills I would make anyone around me do.

See, you can ban or strongly discourage smoking without making a law to take resources of police away from catching rapisits or thieves or murderers or assist citizens in need.

Before anyone else comments about Der_Echte needing to develop a mentality to kick down the doors of a recruiting station to get back in service, those people better show me their military DD214 discharge papers first that prove they been there and done that at least a little bit.
 
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