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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuff
    I’ve been using AGR max on a Tibhar Powerspin carbon blade.
    It suits my attacking game with great speed generated with reduced swing.
    I have found that lifting those backspin balls generates great spin with relative ease.
    Thanks for the in depth review.

    The Dynaryz series rubbers are great but the newer Rhyzen rubbers are slightly tacktacky, spinnier maybe somewhat a notch slower in speed.

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    Can you plese compare it to the older version Rhyzer pro50 since I am using it on bh and fh on Aruna off blade. This setup i great for me (I had a problem with bh side in the beging but its ok now). What is your recomendatin for switching the rubbers /// to go for Dynaryz ACC/AGR, Dynaryz CMD/ZGR, Rhyzen CMD/ZGR or some mix betveen those rubbers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Armin

    Can you plese compare it to the older version Rhyzer pro50 since I am using it on bh and fh on Aruna off blade. This setup i great for me (I had a problem with bh side in the beging but its ok now). What is your recomendatin for switching the rubbers /// to go for Dynaryz ACC/AGR, Dynaryz CMD/ZGR, Rhyzen CMD/ZGR or some mix betveen those rubbers.

    I used to play with Rhyzer 50 both sides and switched to AGR both sides, what I can say is AGR sponge is faster, and overall AGR throw angle is a little lower compared to Rhyzer 50. Spin wise they are close, Rhyzer 50 I felt more spin but just because it is a little slower and the ball have dwell time on rubber.

    Hardness is about the same, both 50° ESN sponge but AGR feels more dynamic, more bounce due to its faster sponge.


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    Can you plese compare it to the older version Rhyzer pro50 since I am using it on bh and fh on Aruna off blade. This setup i great for me ...

    If your current setup is "great" for you, why do you want to change? It may help folks give you better feedback to know what you're looking for compared to what's already working well for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Manto76

    If your current setup is "great" for you, why do you want to change? It may help folks give you better feedback to know what you're looking for compared to what's already working well for you.

    I just want to change, nothing more than that 😊 Pro 50 is great becouse its not bouncy and its great for pushing ans drop shots. Since its not so bouncy i can play safer and if I hit harder speed is increased drasticly. I am thinkin on zgr or cmd versions rhyzen or dynaryz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AMonteiro

    I used to play with Rhyzer 50 both sides and switched to AGR both sides, what I can say is AGR sponge is faster, and overall AGR throw angle is a little lower compared to Rhyzer 50. Spin wise they are close, Rhyzer 50 I felt more spin but just because it is a little slower and the ball have dwell time on rubber.

    Hardness is about the same, both 50° ESN sponge but AGR feels more dynamic, more bounce due to its faster sponge.

    Thanks man. I like pro 50 since it is not bouncy. Other characteristics are in the range of current tensor rubbers in therms of speed and spin except the t05 witch is a litle spinier IMO but more control for pro50. I just want to change to something newer, nothing more than that


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    Quote Originally Posted by Armin

    I just want to change, nothing more than that 😊 Pro 50 is great becouse its not bouncy and its great for pushing ans drop shots. Since its not so bouncy i can play safer and if I hit harder speed is increased drasticly. I am thinkin on zgr or cmd versions rhyzen or dynaryz.

    Nothing wrong with that! A change can be good fun if it works out nicely!

    I know what you mean about the safety of the Pro50. I've also used it in the past and found it the same as you: very predictable on soft shots, and very powerful when you go for it.

    I can't comment on the newer Joola rubbers as I haven't played with them, but if you're looking for a change with similar characteristics then maybe something like Xiom Omega Asia V or VII might suit?

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    yogi_bear;306673Joola Dynaryz AGR dan karet ACC

    Joola mengalami beberapa perombakan tahun lalu karena perubahan kepemilikan dan perubahan dilakukan.
    Mereka bahkan mengubah logo perusahaan mereka. Sejauh ini perubahannya bagus dan kita bisa melihat perubahan pada produk terbaru mereka mulai dari karet Rhyzer dan juga bilah PBO-C.
    Dynaryz tampaknya menjadi nama yang menarik terutama untuk penggemar GoT dan seorang teman saya bahkan bertanya apakah ini datang dengan naga. Tidak, tetapi ia hadir dengan nama lain yang terdengar GoT yang akan segera saya posting.


    Bagaimanapun, karet Joola Dynaryz baru datang dalam 2 versi - ACC dan AGR. Saya akan menjelaskan setiap karet secara menyeluruh sebanyak yang saya bisa. Berikut beberapa fotonya:


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    Joola Dynaryz ACC
    Berat: 69 gram belum dipotong
    Kecepatan: OFF+
    Putar: Sangat Tinggi


















    Dynaryz ACC memiliki spons yang lebih lembut dibandingkan dengan AGR. Pada pandangan pertama, ACC Dynaryz
    dapat disalahartikan sebagai karet Tibhar karena spons ungunya tetapi hanya tampilannya yang mirip dan cara bermainnya sangat berbeda. Saya tidak memiliki info pasti tentang berapa kekerasan spons Dynaryz
    ACC tetapi tampaknya 47-48 derajat dan lembaran atas pada lunak sedang. Saya dapat menekan lembaran atas dan spons sampai tingkat tertentu dan rasanya seperti keras sedang dan juga terasa sedikit lebih lembut daripada Rhyzer 50. Saya hanya melakukan referensi tentang kekerasan karena saya perlu bertanya kepada Joola tentang ini terlebih dahulu.


    Dynaryz ACC adalah versi yang lebih "jinak" dari 2 karet Dynaryz. Ini memiliki celah tertentu dalam hal kecepatan dan kekuatan jika dibandingkan dengan versi AGR. Saya menggunakan 2 karet di bilah yang sama. Saya menggunakan pisau limba-limba 5 lapis dan pisau komposit dengan lapisan karbon-aramid. Bisa dibilang Dynaryz ACC cukup goyang. Kecepatannya sangat nyata bahkan dengan hanya menggunakan pisau 5 lapis. Sebagai perbandingan, ACC memiliki tingkat kecepatan yang kurang lebih sama dengan Rhyzer 48 tetapi terasa lebih lembut pada benturan. Perbandingan karet lainnya untuk kecepatan adalah, ACC > Tibhar FXS, ACC >Donic BF M2, ACC=Donic Bluestorm Z2.


    ACC Dynaryz memiliki busur sedang hingga rendah. Saya memutarnya dengan jarak dekat dan menengah dari meja dan mengamati karetnya sangat berduri. Lapisan atas yang grippy namun matte menghasilkan jumlah putaran yang sangat tinggi. Jika Anda menyukai Tenergy 64 tetapi tidak menyukai harganya, versi ACC adalah alternatif yang baik karena ini adalah karet lintasan yang panjang dengan putaran yang sangat besar. Anda bisa merasakan bola menendang ke pedang Anda jika Anda memblokirnya. Putaran ACC hampir di tingkat Tenergy 64. Ini sangat spinny dan spinnier daripada Bluestorm Z2 atau bahkan versi MXP 47,5 derajat.


    Hal ini mengesankan karena ACC meskipun karet yang sangat cepat memiliki jumlah kontrol yang baik. Meskipun secepat Rhyzer 48, tingkat kontrolnya jauh lebih baik dan lebih memaafkan. Untuk berpikir, ketika Anda menggunakan Dynaryz ACC, sepertinya Anda menggunakan karet tipe kontrol karena akurat dan sangat mudah ditangani. Area lain yang sangat bagus untuk digunakan adalah kemampuan smash yang sangat bagus. Selain itu, cukup mengejutkan untuk tidak terlalu melenting pada pukulan pendek dan halus seperti pukulan jatuh dan dorongan pendek.


    Secara keseluruhan, ini adalah karet yang bagus di hampir semua aspek dan dengan jumlah kecepatan, kontrol, dan putaran yang sangat seimbang.




    Joola Dynaryz AGR
    Berat: 71 gram belum dipotong
    Kecepatan: OFF++
    Putar: Ekstrim















    The Dynaryz AGR is the aggressive type of rubber in the Dynaryz series. This was built purely for offensive purposes and is a monster in both in and out of the table. Both the AGR and ACC versions of the Dynaryz have this specification on each of their topsheets which has a 0.5mm spacing in between pimples, 1.7mm width of each pimple and 0.9mm height of each pip. Both have the same pip and topsheet structure but differs in sponge hardness and some other things that I will mention below. The topsheet is matted red and black with purple sponge. I think this is still a thin topsheet thick sponge type of ESN rubber.


    Versi AGR adalah yang lebih cepat di antara 2 karet. Perbedaan kecepatan hanya besar. Saat menggunakan AGR pada blade limba-limba 5 lapis, Anda sudah dapat merasakan kekuatan drive Anda pada benturan dan bahkan lebih jelas saat menggunakan blade komposit. Saya hanya menggunakan pisau koto-carbon-aramid dan saya sudah merasakan peningkatan kecepatan beberapa kali. Karet ini bukan lelucon. Kecepatannya lebih cepat dari Joola Rhyzer 50. Bedanya, Joola Rhyzer 50 memiliki lebih banyak "roda gigi" sedangkan Dynaryz AGR goyang di semua aspek bahkan dengan tembakan pendek jadi harus sedikit menyesuaikan. Dalam hal goyangan, AGR lebih cepat daripada Tenergy 64 atau Tenergy 05. Perbedaan antara Rhyzer 50 dan Dynaryz AGR adalah bahwa Rhyzer membutuhkan lebih banyak kompresi spons untuk menghasilkan bidikan yang cepat dan kuat, sedangkan Dynaryz AGR benar-benar melenting.


    Banyak yang akan bertanya bagaimana spin dari Dynaryz AGR. Saya pikir ini adalah karet pertama mereka yang saya yakin dapat mengatakan bahwa ini memiliki putaran di tingkat Tenergy 05 tetapi memiliki lebih banyak kekuatan. Itu memang memiliki busur yang sedikit lebih rendah dari T05. Busurnya berada di antara Tenergi 05 dan Tenergi 64 jadi saya akan meletakkannya di sedang hingga sedang-tinggi jika busur Tenergi 05 adalah busur sedang-tinggi ke tinggi.
    Dynaryz AGR memiliki lembaran atas yang sangat kuat sehingga Anda dapat mengangkat bola backspin dengan mudah. Saya sangat mengamati ini ketika menerima bola underspin/backspin di backhand. Ini memiliki jumlah gigitan yang baik dengan bola baik dengan jentikan atau loop pembuka di backhand dan forehand. Sejauh ini, ini adalah karet Joola paling tidak lengket di gudang senjata mereka. Versi Golden Tango PS dan vanilla keduanya berputar tetapi tidak ada artinya jika dibandingkan dengan kekuatannya. PADA bidikan yang lebih kuat, Dynaryz AGR memiliki lebih banyak jus dan lebih banyak kekuatan untuk ditawarkan.


    Saya sangat mengagumi karet ini karena ini masih memiliki kontrol yang baik meskipun kecepatannya dibandingkan dengan karet keras dan cepat lainnya di kelasnya. Saya rasa ini akan menjadi hit di antara karet baru yang akan keluar tahun 2020 ini. Ini benar-benar karet yang luar biasa!

    Joola Dynaryz ACC, if used on the backhand, is it good or not?


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    Yes, dynaryzs are perfect

    Yes, I've used it in the backhand on the Sanwei Paramid blade, and it works really well, especially the control and spin are good.


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    In my search for a suitable T05 replacement this one came out as the best rubber I played with.

    I bought the purple one as a gimmick for the color and didn't expect it to be this good.

    I played my best season ever with it, the spin and speed levels are higher for me then T05 and on top of that it plays way more linear then T05.
    My biggest gripe with T05 was the bounciness and short play and AGR is way more linear and consistent in this department.

    So all in all this rubber wil not disappoint you.

    But there is one caveat that you should know:

    After 2 months the spin and speed degraded significantly for me.(I play 4 times a week)
    It's probably the factory booster wearing of , but it's a thing you should know about this rubber.

    Most ESN rubbers last only 2 to 3 months for me and this one is no exception.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTT

    In my search for a suitable T05 replacement this one came out as the best rubber I played with.

    I bought the purple one as a gimmick for the color and didn't expect it to be this good.

    I played my best season ever with it, the spin and speed levels are higher for me then T05 and on top of that it plays way more linear then T05.
    My biggest gripe with T05 was the bounciness and short play and AGR is way more linear and consistent in this department.

    So all in all this rubber wil not disappoint you.

    But there is one caveat that you should know:

    After 2 months the spin and speed degraded significantly for me.(I play 4 times a week)
    It's probably the factory booster wearing of , but it's a thing you should know about this rubber.

    Most ESN rubbers last only 2 to 3 months for me and this one is no exception.

    I use ACC
    for AGR I haven't tried it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Konrad Bak

    do you think first, open and wait until booster little disappear and reboost after 2 months?
    I found the ESN fabric booster makes rubbers stiffer and it is better to gives them more air time.
    I did that with Rhyzer 48 (which is very very boosted even over 4mm) and plays 3months with good results

    what booster do you use?


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    Rhyzer Pro 50 was a really nice surprise for my type of game. I didn't detect smell of a booster....and truly enjoyed it for two months before it lost character. Very poor durability. I wish that Joola improved that aspect with the Dynaryz

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    Konrad Bak;368641falco lama tapi lain kali saya akan membeli Falco premium, saya punya penguat obligasi premium Haifu dan itu menghancurkan karet ESN saya setelah 2 minggu

    Ok, thank you.


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