Q: Beginner set

dobrev_db · Mar 11, 2020

Hi guys,
I read all the possible topics on that subject, but I was more confused than makes me clear.
Of all the suggestions, I chose ones from UpSideDownCarl, as mostly explained and logical to me.

What I chose to buy as the first non-amateur blade are the following:
1) Stiga Allround Classic - 27 €
2) Donic Appelgren Allplay - 29 €
3) Stiga Allround Evolution - 29 €
4) Yasaka Sweden Extra - 20€

and rubber for this blades:
1) Yasaka Mark V - 24 €
2) Xiom Vega intro - 18€
3) Xiom Vega Pro- 20-24€
4) Xiom Vega Europa - 24 €
i think all in 2.0 mm thickness.

Or as alternative, i can buy used Yasaka Sweden classic (old version) pared with Yasaka Rakza 7 and Yasaka Rakza 7 soft - 50 €.

So please help me to make a right choice. Thanks a lot!

Brs · Mar 12, 2020

Buy the old sweden classic with Rakza 7s.

yogi_bear · Mar 12, 2020

Sweden extra with vega intro

dobrev_db · Mar 13, 2020

Thanks a lot, it is ordered - Yasaka Sweden extra + Xiom Vega intro

dobrev_db · Apr 1, 2020

Can i use DHS Hurricane 3 National 40' blue sponge max thickness for FH on this blade?

lasta · Apr 1, 2020

DHSNH340BS is OK, but for that price you might as well try sourcing XOVIIAHC.

Question is how much value proposition does it offer over Vega Intro at this stage?

yogi_bear · Apr 1, 2020

lasta said:
DHSNH340BS is OK, but for that price you might as well try sourcing XOVIIAHC.

Question is how much value proposition does it offer over Vega Intro at this stage?

Omega 7 A? What is HC?

dobrev_db · Apr 1, 2020

I have good offer for used one for 20 €, that why i ask for help.

yogi_bear · Apr 3, 2020

dobrev_db said:
I have good offer for used one for 20 €, that why i ask for help.

are you sure it is authentic?

Kuba Hajto · Apr 3, 2020

yogi_bear said:
are you sure it is authentic?

Valid concern but, 20€ for 40€ rubber is rather fair price. I would be rather wondering about size and how beaten the rubbers is.

dobrev_db · Apr 3, 2020

I have buy it from a guy in my town, the rubber is 155/150 mm, 10 min play according to him. It really look like new one, and is very sticky. I asked him for the reason of the sale, his answer was, that he play with the defensive blade, and the rubber is very slow for him, and to play whit it, he need to change the blade.
I didn't glued it yet, but first i checked the dimensions of the blade, it is 157/151, so it will not be a problem, it is only 2 mm shorter.
Thanks for the answers.

yogi_bear · Apr 3, 2020

It needs boosting to enlarge a bit.

yogi_bear · Apr 3, 2020

Kuba Hajto said:
Valid concern but, 20€ for 40€ rubber is rather fair price. I would be rather wondering about size and how beaten the rubbers is.

Price does not guarantee authenticity.

Kuba Hajto · Apr 3, 2020

yogi_bear said:
Price does not guarantee authenticity.

Fair point, I was talking about 40€ from official distributor (sportspin.cz, modest) listed on Xiom site, just wanted to clarify this.

dobrev_db · Apr 3, 2020

Guys, we are talking about DHS Hurricane 3 National 40' blue sponge, not the commercial one.
This one cost 100€, according TT11, where did you find it for 40€?
Or maybe am wrong?

dobrev_db · Apr 3, 2020

yogi_bear said:
It needs boosting to enlarge a bit.

Yogi, i think they are factory boosted, or? That why they are allowed to use in competition...

Kuba Hajto · Apr 3, 2020

dobrev_db said:
Yogi, i think they are factory boosted, or? That why they are allowed to use in competition...

Sry my bad, I need to learn to read more thoroughly. Lasta threw me off and I thought we were talking about Omega VII Asia. My bad. In that case I supports everything Yogi said. Authenticity is a big problem, unless you trust your source.

yogi_bear · Apr 3, 2020

dobrev_db said:
Yogi, i think they are factory boosted, or? That why they are allowed to use in competition...

Factory boosting is allowed as long as it is within the limit for VOC. Most rubbers nowadays are factory boosted already.

passifid · Apr 3, 2020

How long have you played. What have you played with before and style.
I personally would suggest a new battle 2 over a used probably fake H3 national. And if you don't use Chinese rubbers to begin with it makes even less!

UpSideDownCarl · Apr 3, 2020

Yeah, I would not buy a rubber that is used and cut for a blade that is smaller than the one you are going to use.

Just get Vega Intro on both sides. Or, if you want a Chinese tacky rubber for FH, then get whichever one you want but buy it new.

All hard Chinese tacky rubbers, even the ones that come factory tuned, play much much much much better boosted. But, you don't "need" to boost them. They just don't play anywhere near as good without the boost.

And if you are a beginner getting a beginner setup, why get an advanced rubber like H3 BS N, particularly if it is used?

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