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      [QUOTE=Gwenved;310816]
      Quote Originally Posted by Tabletennisbets View Post

      And, only in case you don't know, when you have the same kind of wood, at same thickness less layers is more speed but less control, more layers in less speed and more control. That's why I prefer the H3-9 to the H1-9
      obviously referring to my play and strokes.
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      hows the control of h39 compare to a clipper wood? do you think h39 will compliment to a short pips in forehand?

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      Actually, I am not so sure that everything is fine now. You were basically asked why it would be okay for you to have a high quality blade but you were telling someone else they were confused and should not fuss about equipment. Your response was a demonstration of bad behavior.

      If you apologize to Gwenved about your post, then it would seem that everything is fine.
      I disagree,

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      Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo View Post
      I disagree,

      he picked on my post and got personal
      I have sent you a PM. We will take this discussion off this thread.
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      [QUOTE=wappak;310818]
      Quote Originally Posted by Gwenved View Post

      hows the control of h39 compare to a clipper wood? do you think h39 will compliment to a short pips in forehand?
      Well difficult to say, the feeling of both are really different but what sure, H3-9 + short pimps is good, better than long pimps, based on the past so without glue. Very explosive close to the table and needs training.
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      [QUOTE=Gwenved;310849]
      Quote Originally Posted by wappak View Post
      Well difficult to say, the feeling of both are really different but what sure, H3-9 + short pimps is good, better than long pimps, based on the past so without glue. Very explosive close to the table and needs training.
      Regards
      the new h39 now is 6.7mm thick, is that the same thickness you have played? does it have a soft or hard feel?

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      [QUOTE=wappak;310869]
      Quote Originally Posted by Gwenved View Post

      the new h39 now is 6.7mm thick, is that the same thickness you have played? does it have a soft or hard feel?
      No Wappak, the H5 was 8mm and the H3-9 was 9mm, it name comes from here, Hinoki, 3 layers, 9 mm.
      But the H3-9 I saw in my retailer was 9mm. Seems to be the latest one. Are you sure about your info?
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      [QUOTE=Gwenved;310878]
      Quote Originally Posted by wappak View Post
      No Wappak, the H5 was 8mm and the H3-9 was 9mm, it name comes from here, Hinoki, 3 layers, 9 mm.
      But the H3-9 I saw in my retailer was 9mm. Seems to be the latest one. Are you sure about your info?
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      gwenved, yes the latest h39 is now thinner

      https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tibhar-h-3-9

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      There seems to be contradictory information on thickness of Tibhar H-3-9 on the internet. It is possible that this is because there are blades with different thicknesses. I am not sure.

      But, if you are considering this blade, it may be worth reading this thread from MyTT from 2010. It is old. But there may be information to consider.

      1) It looks like some people say the blade is 7.5mm thick based on owning it; some say 6.7 or 6.8; some say 9mm.

      2) Some people say it feels good; some people say the H-3-9 they got had unbearable vibrations; others say, not.

      So, maybe worth the read. All that information sounds like to me is inconsistency in wood or production. And, truthfully, with all wood blades, especially with a rare, hard to get wood like Hinoki, it seems like it is in a range of normal.

      http://mytabletennis.net/forum/tibha...opic31653.html

      BTW: On Tibhar's website, they do not mention anything about thickness of H-3-9 having been changed:

      https://www.tibhar.com/en/product/h-3-9/
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      Hi all, as far as I know the H3-9 ( as the H1-9) has always been 9mm at least in Europe.
      Maybe you have different thickness in other regions of the world?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gwenved View Post
      Hi all, as far as I know the H3-9 ( as the H1-9) has always been 9mm at least in Europe.
      Maybe you have different thickness in other regions of the world?
      Sometimes different thicknesses happen as a result of quality control. 1.5-2.3mm seems like a big mistake in quality control. But there can be any number of reasons there would be different reports on the thickness.

      It is clear from the name though that 9 signifies 9mm thick, and Tibhar's site does not say anything about the thickness. So, the thinner versions, it is up for interpretation how that happened including people measuring for themself and measuring incorrectly.

      Hard to say. But it is safe to say that there are conflicting reports of the thickness of the blade. Why that is the case? We cannot tell. But if someone ordered few 100 and found they were all the same thickness, that would be a start to have documentation on the thickness. Not that anyone needs to do that.

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      Friends know the store http://www.xlntsports.co.uk/?
      Can I buy without problem? I have seen the Septear + 2 Fastarc G-1 at 110 euros and it is a good opportunity to play with this explosive 100% Nittaku combination
      My decision in the end goes for a classic but it costs me the same racket as the darker blade, I think it will be a good first date with the hinoki
      Thank you very much to all!
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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      Sometimes different thicknesses happen as a result of quality control. 1.5-2.3mm seems like a big mistake in quality control. But there can be any number of reasons there would be different reports on the thickness.

      It is clear from the name though that 9 signifies 9mm thick, and Tibhar's site does not say anything about the thickness. So, the thinner versions, it is up for interpretation how that happened including people measuring for themself and measuring incorrectly.

      Hard to say. But it is safe to say that there are conflicting reports of the thickness of the blade. Why that is the case? We cannot tell. But if someone ordered few 100 and found they were all the same thickness, that would be a start to have documentation on the thickness. Not that anyone needs to do that.
      Hi Carl,
      I've asked directly to Tibhar and I have now the anwer. The H-1-9 is still 9mm as originally the H-3-9 was 9mm too as the H-5-9 they were all 9mm thick. Now the new generation of H-3-9 is 7 / 7,5 mm
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      Quote Originally Posted by Gwenved View Post
      Hi Carl,
      I've asked directly to Tibhar and I have now the anwer. The H-1-9 is still 9mm as originally the H-3-9 was 9mm too as the H-5-9 they were all 9mm thick. Now the new generation of H-3-9 is 7 / 7,5 mm
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      And there you have why there are varied reports of thickness. Interesting that they say 7-7.5mm and don't just give a specific thickness but rather a range of thickness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      And there you have why there are varied reports of thickness. Interesting that they say 7-7.5mm and don't just give a specific thickness but rather a range of thickness.
      Yes Carl, and no explanation why they change to 7/7,5mm. So in this case it has to be slower than it was in the past with more control.
      Regards

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      The change in Thickness is probably related to the type of the wood. Maybe in the past they could source hinoki with a lower density, but now the wood heavier so they had to change the Thickness to compensate for that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      And there you have why there are varied reports of thickness. Interesting that they say 7-7.5mm and don't just give a specific thickness but rather a range of thickness.
      its around 6.7mm as indicated by the online store

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      Quote Originally Posted by wappak View Post
      its around 6.7mm as indicated by the online store

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      Well, at least this one is. If you do that to 100 more and show the results, if they are all consistent, then we would know. But for sure, that one is approximately 6.8mm thick.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl View Post
      Well, at least this one is. If you do that to 100 more and show the results, if they are all consistent, then we would know. But for sure, that one is approximately 6.8mm thick.
      Hi all, When I said 7 to 7.5 mm it came from Thibar directly, not from me, That's the answer they gave me.
      If it's from 6.8 to 7.5 that a very big gap....

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      Sauger & Troger Kasalla is a fantastic piece of wood with Yasaka Razka Po in fh and Frienship 802-40 III in bh

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gwenved View Post
      Hi all, When I said 7 to 7.5 mm it came from Thibar directly, not from me, That's the answer they gave me.
      If it's from 6.8 to 7.5 that a very big gap....
      In that thread that I linked to, from MyTT, some people listed 6.7, some listed 7.0, others 7.5, and some listed 9.0. So on that thread, there were people who had the blade with different thicknesses. So, I did not get the thicknesses I listed from this thread. I got them from thicknesses reported on that thread as well. You can look above and follow the link to find that thread if you want to see what was said back when that thread was active.

      Someone in that thread also says that the shakehand versions are 6.8. But it seems there are a lot of versions of this blade out there with different thicknesses.
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