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      Found my 1.5 year old forum post (time flies ) about player salaries in clubs in EU:


      "A member of a Table Tennis Facebook Group I follow wrote a very interesting post with the info he was able to gather about men salaries in clubs in EU. So according to the author:

      -players who are ~bellow ITTF250+ are playing for food, equipment and a butterfly suit. On a good day, they even may get 100eur for small expenses
      -players around ITTF250 earn on average 12-15000 EUR per season +bonuses for results, so on average around 100eur per victory
      -players around ITTF200-250 can expect 15-20000 EUR per season+some bonuses
      -players around ITTF150-200 can expect 18-22000 EUR per season+some bonuses
      -players around ITTF100-150 can earn up to 30000 per season, on average 25-27000 EUR per season
      -Crossing ITTF-100 is an important threshold in Table tennis. Top 100 players salaries start from 30000 eur per season. But it depends upon how stable are you. Whether you are always in the top 100 or if your ranking varies from for example ITTF-120 to ITTF-80...
      -players around ITTF-60 and up earn 40-50000 eur per season. Those who are stable above ITTF-50 earn not less then 60000EUR per season
      -players around ITTF-20 earn from 60-90000eur per season. But it may vary wildly depending on the results
      -top players get 150000-300000 eur per season or more. But, for example, stars like Timo Boll earn much more than that.
      Also, players get bonuses for taking first places in various tournaments, so this money usually goes only to top players naturally.

      Salaries in China are much bigger than in Europe.

      So the takeaway is that you should get a normal job and stop dreaming about making your living from TT. Cause to be able to make a decent living you have to be one of let's say 100 top players in the whole world and have superpowers "

      I think it's right on topic here

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      Is 39l0k.Euro per season bigger than a monthly salary of a regular paying job in Europe?

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      Going back to my plumber, he's definitely pulling in more than 100k euros a year and it didn't take him 10000 hours of practice to get there.

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      thank you all and I would like you to end it there, I don’t want to know about money, money and money, I already know that I won’t make a living with this even if I get far, maybe I’ll do something else like digital marketing, I’ll play for love, money makes a difference, but what tt experiences me is not normal, yesterday there was an ugly fight here, the only thing that made me calm was my racket and ball. I like and love this sport. the money he will bring me does not matter, I will strive to pay the bills, but mainly to get as far as possible in the sport.

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      sorry, but i never talked about making a living with tt, that's not even my intention. I close this topic here. I will not have a normal job and I may be struggling to get as far as possible. Thanks but I don't care about that much money, I hate those who idolize money.





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      Quote Originally Posted by davizoosk View Post
      thank you all and I would like you to end it there, I don’t want to know about money, money and money, I already know that I won’t make a living with this even if I get far, maybe I’ll do something else like digital marketing, I’ll play for love, money makes a difference, but what tt experiences me is not normal, yesterday there was an ugly fight here, the only thing that made me calm was my racket and ball. I like and love this sport. the money he will bring me does not matter, I will strive to pay the bills, but mainly to get as far as possible in the sport.
      not sure this will age well, especially when he learns that chicks prefer rich men to bums, and that TT coaches will not teach him for free because they have a family to feed.

      but 15 is a time when to have grand ideas.

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      thank you all for the encouragement, about the technicians I’m already seeing this, if you’ve read it, you can see that my father is a physical education teacher and can accompany me on this, I won’t give up and thanks again, you just motivated me to try harder.

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      Quote Originally Posted by davizoosk View Post
      thank you all for the encouragement, about the technicians I’m already seeing this, if you’ve read it, you can see that my father is a physical education teacher and can accompany me on this, I won’t give up and thanks again, you just motivated me to try harder.
      Cool. You should look at PingPongPaddy's thread on ideas about training. It will be a worthwhile read for you. Good info for improving skills.
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      Quote Originally Posted by davizoosk View Post
      I started practicing tt for now and I dream of becoming a professional, is it still possible?

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      sorry, but i never talked about making a living with tt, that's not even my intention.

      "A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity." (Wikipedia)

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      Quote Originally Posted by lVegita View Post
      "A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity." (Wikipedia)
      This is true. But if his goal is simply to get as good as possible and to get to a pro level of play, then, no reason not to go for it. When he needs to be able to pay the bills, he will make choices then. At 15 you can focus on things like TT training. The work and discipline that go into it do transfer into life and profession skills when he needs to make a living. That kind of discipline, if he develops it while working on TT skills can transfer to the skills of any other career.

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      Sorry, if you heard not that what you hoped, but your attitude is great. So keep it up!

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      Sorry, if you heard not that what you hoped, but your attitude is great. So keep it up!
      I'm sorry, nothing here I expected, you gave me an explanation of the reality and I was angry at the time. but I understood, anyway, I understand a little bit of informatics and digital marketing, maybe I need to use this to make a living if the tt doesn't bear fruit, I'm sorry for the ignorance.

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      I have had players who were in their mid-twenties, and who were low level players ask what I thought about them working to become a pro. There is nothing wrong with dreams and following your dreams. Sometimes things work out different than the numbers.

      In other sports it is much more possible. In TT it is quite hard. But, for someone 15 it is still possible. Just not a viable source of income for most, even the second rung below the top tier players.

      But there is still value in going for it. And you never know what could come of the fruits of the effort.

      Look at ZJK: he makes far more being a model these days than he ever did as a TT player. And at the height of his career, he was definitely, by far, the highest paid player. And the modeling career would not have happened without the TT career.
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      Ironically, one of my founding members of Korean Foreign developed into a National level Div 1 amateur player winning many tourneys (was about 200 level when he went to Korea) and had a very successful career as a fashion model.
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      If you surround yourself in the right environment it's possible

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      I say go to college, graduate and get a high paying job while playing table tennis to be on a good level but not a pro.

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      Yes you can. And you even have a chance to participate in local leagues. But I think that everything is possible and you can achieve the great results if you will work hard. Adn maybe once you will take a part at worldwide championship.

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      Yes you can. And you even have a chance to participate in local leagues. But I think that everything is possible and you can achieve the great results if you will work hard. Adn maybe once you will take a part at worldwide championship.
      Just curious. How long have you been playing?

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      It is possible, it just depends on you. I would say train like 4*5 hours a week plus 3 hours one-on
      -one with a coach. This is 23 hours, IMO it's enough if you are talented. If not, aim at 30-35 hours per week. The real challenge are the money and the schooling. You're 15 and being a full-time TT player you can't expect a stable income. The best if you can participate in a family business. Also, if you are in school and train to become a pro, you can forget your social life. Your team and clubmates will be your friends and you shouldn't start a serious romantic relationship, unless she's a professional too. It's harsh, but it's possible. On the other hand, if you want to become a semi-professional, someone who gets paid for playing but not as his main income, your job is much easier. Then it really depends on how talented you are, how good the coaches are and how can you manage your time. I am 21 and still want to become a semi-pro and I believe that I can become one.
      If you decided that you want to take table tennis seriously, I highly recommend to set goals and start to share vids about you training and playing, as it creates pressure on you and helps maintaining a high standard during training.

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      Nope. A guy just starting at 15 is not going to be a pro, no matter how hard you believe or how many songs you listen to.
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