Fast 7-ply Allwood Blade

40S&W · Apr 19, 2020

Hi,
I wanted to get a 7-ply Allwood offensive blade and I got flustered with all the options in the market today. with that said I wanted to come up with a shortlist to serve as a starting point in deciding what to get. Budget is not a problem I am willing to spend some money provided that what am getting is of good quality. I am an offensive player attacking from both sides. I am more of a mid-distance Looper. I will be using Kokutaku 007 Pro H39 on my forehand as I am accustomed to tacky FH rubbers. I will use a Xiom Omega 5 Tour in the backhand. Could you please recommend something.

Thank You.

chintanmashroo · Apr 19, 2020

Below is the list of top-quality fast 7-ply all wood blades:

1 - DHS Long 3 / N506 (National Version)
2 - Butterfly A. Mazunov
3 - Butterfly Korbel SK7
4 - Stiga Nostalgic VII
5 - Avalox P700
6 - Stiga Ebenholz VII
7 - Victas Koki Niwa Wood
8 - Nittaku Ludeak Power
9 - Stiga Clipper CC
10 - Andro Wanokiwami Ren Off
11 - Butterfly Hadraw SK
12 - Mizuno Fortius FT

Personally, I would recommend you to buy any of the below and the list falls under the category of "can't go wrong". Keep in mind that if you need a solid crisp feeling, the blade you select must weight 90g and above.

DHS Long 2 or Long 3 or National N506 - the best
Butterfly Korbel SK7 / Hadraw SK
Mizuno Fortius FT
Stiga Clipper CC
Avalox P700

Some of the blades in the above list are a bit difficult to find.

Good Luck.

Cheers

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UpSideDownCarl · Apr 19, 2020

I would add to the list above:

Xiom Extreme S

I would also note that, in Chintanmashroo's first list, #2, Mazinov, I believe this is a 5 ply. But it still would be a decent choice.

Ingo_Ger · Apr 19, 2020

As you're from Austria, treat yourself with a custom made Clipper-like blade with "Sägefurniere" instead of blade cut veneers glued with hide glue from Thomas. You even can choose if you want the same structure from the early Clipper days or the newer and thicker one.
Hanno Masterpiece FF is also something I would like to try. (Maybe for me the MF-Version)
PM me if you want.

lasta · Apr 19, 2020

Ingo_Ger said:
As you're from Austria, treat yourself with a custom made Clipper-like blade with "Sägefurniere" instead of blade cut veneers glued with hide glue from Thomas. You even can choose if you want the same structure from the early Clipper days or the newer and thicker one.
Hanno Masterpiece FF is also something I would like to try. (Maybe for me the MF-Version)
PM me if you want.

The guy is already inundated with options and you recommend him custom made??

Stop reading reviews. Look for a 6.7mm limba-ayous blade from ANY manufacturer. The mainstream ones are pretty much identical. Then base your decision on the handle shape you like.

Stiga: Clipper
Tibhar: Samsonov Force Pro Black
Butterfly: Korbel SK7
Andro: Timber 7 OFF/S or CS7 Tour
Joola: Viva
Adidas: Challenge Speed/Strike wood

Andro and Tibhar handles tend to be nice and beefy, Adidas not far behind, Stiga's tend to be narrower (in general), the rest are in between.

Cheers.

nazarit · Apr 19, 2020

chintanmashroo said:
Below is the list of top-quality fast 7-ply all wood blades:

1 - DHS Long 3 / N506 (National Version)
2 - Butterfly A. Mazunov
3 - Butterfly Korbel SK7
4 - Stiga Nostalgic VII
5 - Avalox P700
6 - Stiga Ebenholz VII
7 - Victas Koki Niwa Wood
8 - Nittaku Ludeak Power
9 - Stiga Clipper CC
10 - Andro Wanokiwami Ren Off
11 - Butterfly Hadraw SK
12 - Mizuno Fortius FT

Personally, I would recommend you to buy any of the below and the list falls under the category of "can't go wrong". Keep in mind that if you need a solid crisp feeling, the blade you select must weight 90g and above.

DHS Long 2 or Long 3 or National N506 - the best
Butterfly Korbel SK7 / Hadraw SK
Mizuno Fortius FT
Stiga Clipper CC
Avalox P700

Some of the blades in the above list are a bit difficult to find.

Good Luck.

Cheers

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6010 using Tapatalk

I Got it one of recommend list.
(Avalox P700)

Der_Echte · Apr 19, 2020

Given OP's choice of rubbers, something a little thicker and solid may narrow down the universe a bit. That ought to be the center of mass. A very flexy blade would not work so well with those rubbers methinks. I put rubbers like that on a W6 and it is crazy bad.

Either way, an effective approach to equipment selection is to define what the player's center of mass for appropriate should be... then go from there.

A small deviance when going for center of mass will still produce an effective choice in most instances.

This is another way to say "Don't sweat the exact blade, get one that is from the right classification you define"

It is so easy to over-analyze and sometimes you have to try it yourself.

I like lasta saying 6.7 mm which has a good chance to be decently thick/solid

If OP can still find one, the older 90g+ Nittaku Mono blade is right up the alley for his center of mass. It is only one of many of the class and sub class OP should target.

Edit: I see OP got a P700. Hope it is at least upper 80s g in weight.

Kuba Hajto · Apr 19, 2020

Der_Echte said:
Edit: I see OP got a P700. Hope it is at least upper 80s g in weight.

That's no op, op has nick 40S&W, user who bought avalox has nickname nazarit, and nazarit != 40S&W.

When it comes to the list I would add Donic Dyjas Power and TSP Swat

40S&W · Apr 19, 2020

I thank you all for the recommendations
so here is my shortlist based on your recommendations and on what is available on my current location. I decided to buy from shops and suppliers near me to narrow it down and international shipping is quite troublesome due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.

1.Stiga Clipper (Regular,CR,WRB, CR WRB,CC)
2.Stiga Nostalgic 7
3.Xiom Extreme S
4.Avalox P700
5.Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Blue
6.Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black
7.Sanwei Fextra *heard good reviews about it so I put it in the list

nazarit · Apr 19, 2020

Der_Echte said:
Given OP's choice of rubbers, something a little thicker and solid may narrow down the universe a bit. That ought to be the center of mass. A very flexy blade would not work so well with those rubbers methinks. I put rubbers like that on a W6 and it is crazy bad.

Either way, an effective approach to equipment selection is to define what the player's center of mass for appropriate should be... then go from there.

A small deviance when going for center of mass will still produce an effective choice in most instances.

This is another way to say "Don't sweat the exact blade, get one that is from the right classification you define"

It is so easy to over-analyze and sometimes you have to try it yourself.

I like lasta saying 6.7 mm which has a good chance to be decently thick/solid

If OP can still find one, the older 90g+ Nittaku Mono blade is right up the alley for his center of mass. It is only one of many of the class and sub class OP should target.

Edit: I see OP got a P700. Hope it is at least upper 80s g in weight.

My Avalox P700 is 95 g

Kuba Hajto said:
That's no op, op has nick 40S&W, user who bought avalox has nickname nazarit, and nazarit != 40S&W.

When it comes to the list I would add Donic Dyjas Power and TSP Swat

Thank you, for called me the right nickname.

nazarit · Apr 19, 2020

40S&W said:
Hi,
I wanted to get a 7-ply Allwood offensive blade and I got flustered with all the options in the market today. with that said I wanted to come up with a shortlist to serve as a starting point in deciding what to get. Budget is not a problem I am willing to spend some money provided that what am getting is of good quality. I am an offensive player attacking from both sides. I am more of a mid-distance Looper. I will be using Kokutaku 007 Pro H39 on my forehand as I am accustomed to tacky FH rubbers. I will use a Xiom Omega 5 Tour in the backhand. Could you please recommend something.

Thank You.

If you have more budget, please try DHS hurricane 3 neo Provincial blue sponge (H39/2.1mm.) boosted on FH. It's excellent combination with limba outer-ply blade. I used to loop with Kokutaku 007 Pro H39. It's not good spin enough, 729 battle 2 provincial blue sponge maybe better.

40S&W · Apr 19, 2020

nazarit said:
If you have more budget, please try DHS hurricane 3 neo Provincial blue sponge (H39/2.1mm.) boosted on FH. It's excellent combination with limba outer-ply blade. I used to loop with Kokutaku 007 Pro H39. It's not good spin enough, 729 battle 2 provincial blue sponge maybe better.

Is this the model you tried?

nazarit · Apr 19, 2020

40S&W said:
Is this the model you tried? View attachment 21226

Yes, this rubber has 2 version(mid-hard and hard). I tried mid-hard version.This rubber not hard enough for me to generated more speed and spin than DHS H3 neo provi BS(my normally FH rubber used with HL5).

40S&W · Apr 19, 2020

nazarit said:
Yes, this rubber has 2 version(mid-hard and hard). I tried mid-hard version.This rubber not hard enough for me to generated more speed and spin than DHS H3 neo provi BS(my normally FH rubber used with HL5).

I already got it in medium hard. I was supposed to buy the Xiom omega but we were put under lockdown. Will the Kokutaku be good for BH if heavily boosted?

nazarit · Apr 19, 2020

40S&W said:
I already got it in medium hard. I was supposed to buy the Xiom omega but we were put under lockdown. Will the Kokutaku be good for BH if heavily boosted?

IMO it can use as BH rubber, but good or not, I don't know. BTW if you use it on BH, you will do active block, brush more and open more blade-angle because of the tackiness(passive might be got the net). Chinese player (Malong, Xuxin, etc.) also use Chinese rubber on BH too.

Ray · Apr 19, 2020

OSP Ultimate II if you want the best quality (of materials and workmanship) available.

Kanonir · Apr 19, 2020

Stiga Rosewood NCT VII.

Dandoy almost every month have the Master (flared, but not wide as the Legend) option on a promotion at very attractive price + free shipping.

40S&W · Apr 20, 2020

nazarit said:
IMO it can use as BH rubber, but good or not, I don't know. BTW if you use it on BH, you will do active block, brush more and open more blade-angle because of the tackiness(passive might be got the net). Chinese player (Malong, Xuxin, etc.) also use Chinese rubber on BH too.

Ok Thanks. I agree that active brushing is a must when using chinese rubber on the backhand.

yogi_bear · Apr 20, 2020

Some of the choices are very stiff. Get the Avalox P700 or Clipper CC.

40S&W · Apr 20, 2020

yogi_bear said:
Some of the choices are very stiff. Get the Avalox P700 or Clipper CC.

I am putting those blades on top of my list. I see you are using Kokutaku 007 Pro, are you using H39 or H40? do you think it has more spin than a Sanwei Target National?

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