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      New Butterfly Rubber Aibis

      Butterfly Japan just in: Aibis rubber https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/06080.html

      So I was just browsing Butterfly Japan site as you do and saw this new rubber. Anyone heard about it? Zeio?

      It has an interesting sponge colour. My google translation is not great so not sure what it's saying.
      Last edited by TTstyle; 06-19-2020 at 08:38 AM.

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      Knew about the name but didn't know it was a tacky rubber.

      Treat it as a green tacky Rozena as they sell for the same price in Japan.
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      It's listed as 50°, which is very hard on the Butterfly scale. Dignics 09c is 44°

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      It uses Spring Sponge instead of Spring Sponge X. Spiritual successor to Spinart at 48 degrees?

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      I guess it’s the cheap version of 09c, just as Rozena is the cheap version of Tenergy

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sedis View Post
      It's listed as 50°, which is very hard on the Butterfly scale. Dignics 09c is 44°
      Harder than 09c, didn't think a rubber could get much harder than 09c by Butterfly.

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      It seems BTY version of chinese DHS Hurricane Neo 3.

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      Probably Spinart replacement??
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      Quote Originally Posted by merlin el mago View Post
      It seems BTY version of chinese DHS Hurricane Neo 3.
      I thought that was what 09c is?

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      Manufacturing Details:
      Speed: 10.5
      Spin: 11

      According to the BTY numbers it is significantly less speed and spin then Tenergy/Dignics Families.
      Also the price point put it in the range of the Rozena branch.

      So in my eyes it's the Rozena Version of Dignics 09c altough the 50 Hardness is a lot more.

      How can a 50 degree rubber be so much slower ?

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      At ¥198 in China, this is gonna be interesting. I read that DHS had another hike price in place just a few weeks ago...

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      Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTT View Post
      Manufacturing Details:
      Speed: 10.5
      Spin: 11

      According to the BTY numbers it is significantly less speed and spin then Tenergy/Dignics Families.
      Also the price point put it in the range of the Rozena branch.

      So in my eyes it's the Rozena Version of Dignics 09c altough the 50 Hardness is a lot more.

      How can a 50 degree rubber be so much slower ?
      The devil is in the detail?

      Strictly speaking, it isn't Spring Sponge but "a hard sponge utilizing the manufacturing technology of Spring Sponge." Therefore, unlike Rozena, Aibiss isn't listed under the categories of "High Tension" and "Spring Sponge".

      Exploitation of cognitive bias at its best. Another decoy to get people hooked. Want more speed? Bling-bling - D09C!

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      I think this is rubber for recreational player who has money and bought Innerforce Harimoto Super ZLC, Mizutani Super ZLC, Zhang Jike Super ZLC or Revoldia CNF and the combo plays too fast with Dignics/Tenergy but Rozena is too soft because someone said " sticky rubber with more hardness so it s more spin" your training is not important xd

      so here we go with Aibiss, aka hurricane 3 neo with fancy new color sponge and I dont hate but they should make more soft slow super flexy premium all+/off- blades that will match with Dignics or Tenergy.

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      This is a rubber for booster lovers.
      Given the hardness booster will be very good on it.

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      Bty NA has a slightly different translation. High throw, much spin little speed, sounds intriguing to me. For $40 I'll try it. My local club owner and bty/joola dealer needs all the help he can get right now anyway.

      Aibiss rubber is a high-friction rubber which balances the characteristics of a friction rubber and more traditional high quality Butterfly rubber sheets. A specialized top sheet with a pimple shape which enables heavy spin has been combined with a hard sponge; this results in high speed as well as devastating spin potential thanks to the applied technology of the very firm Spring Sponge. Aibiss, with heavy spin and a high throw angle, is recommended for the player who aims at making the best use of the characteristics of a friction rubber, especially one using precise technique on the table and counter attacking play.

      BRAND NEW high-friction rubber with the hardest Spring Sponge (50!) ever produced for the public
      Controllable speed with as much spin as Dignics 64, all with a higher throw angle which gives more margin over the net.

      Perfect for the counterattacking player that values precision and heavy-spin play.

      Pairs best with Lin Gaoyuan ALC, Timo Boll ZLC, Mazunov, Mizutani Jun Super ZLC, and other Butterfly blades
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      Class: High-Friction Pimples-in
      Surface: Inverted
      Speed: 10.5
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      Density: 50
      Made in Japan
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      TB ZLC is harder than softer, Mazunov is hard.
      I don't think so..

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      Apparently it's already available in the US: https://shop.butterflyonline.com/aibiss
      Has anyone here from the Goon squad already ordered it?

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      I'm not a goon squaddie but i ordered a sheet from megaspin yesterday.

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      I didn't go full retard though, not buying free chack and an MJ SZLC. Either Aibiss works with donic vario on an acoustic carbon or it goes in the trash.

      So per butterfly recommendation mine isn't really a fair test.

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