Horrible experience by using DHS Skyline TG 3 Neo in Stiga Rosewood NCT VII

Nazmul Haque · Jul 22, 2020

Recently I started using Stiga Rosewood NCT VII with mantra S in both sides and it was okay type of set up not any extra ordinary . So after two months of playing I thought I need more power on forehand and just glued the DHS Skyline TG 3 rubber on forehand today and totally pissed off about the entire thing . Need your help and expert advise for rubber suggestion for Stiga Rosewood NCT vii

Michael Kitt · Jul 22, 2020

Lol, was it dead? Try playing a few more hours with it to break it in

Nazmul Haque · Jul 22, 2020

Kind of dead feeling and no feeling at all. Seems mushy type of feel. Totally frustrated.

Michael Kitt · Jul 22, 2020

Ok, just use Tenergy05, you probably won't complain about that one, except for the price

Gekko · Jul 22, 2020

I've found 38 degree Chinese rubber to be the sweet spot for the rosewood (forehand), still playing around but looking closer to 47.5 ESN stuff for backhand.

Did you tune your Skyline before playing?

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

Any other good option ?

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

gekogark1212 said:
I've found 38 degree Chinese rubber to be the sweet spot for the rosewood (forehand), still playing around but looking closer to 47.5 ESN stuff for backhand.

Did you tune your Skyline before playing?

No I didnt

lasta · Jul 23, 2020

You moved from a modern soft rubber to one of the harder Chinese offerings. What were you expecting?

You are not going to get "power on the forehand" by changing a rubber. Work on your positioning and swing faster. TG3 holds up much better than ESN stuff on high impact speeds, but you need to be able to generate that speed yourself. Otherwise, it just feels like a dead slow rubber.

IMO it works for Xu Xin, so definitely not without merits.

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

lasta said:
You moved from a modern soft rubber to one of the harder Chinese offerings. What were you expecting?

You are not going to get "power on the forehand" by changing a rubber. Work on your positioning and swing faster. TG3 holds up much better than ESN stuff on high impact speeds, but you need to be able to generate that speed yourself. Otherwise, it just feels like a dead slow rubber.

IMO it works for Xu Xin, so definitely not without merits.

May be you are right.However, I have to find out which one is suitable for me. Would you please extend your advise.

lasta · Jul 23, 2020

Nazmul Haque said:
May be you are right.However, I have to find out which one is suitable for me. Would you please extend your advise.

Hard to give meaningful recommendations without knowing how you play and what your preferences are.

That being said, if you liked the Mantra and want faster, try the M and H versions.

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

lasta said:
Hard to give meaningful recommendations without knowing how you play and what your preferences are.

That being said, if you liked the Mantra and want faster, try the M and H versions.

Thank you pasta for a good advise.

Kuba Hajto · Jul 23, 2020

Before you throw the rubber away considering boosting it. Even baby oil may work in your case. It won't give it truckload of speed, but it will soften up. If you are up to throwing the rubber away you have nothing to lose.

It won't do a 180, but it will help a bit.

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

Kuba Hajto said:
Before you throw the rubber away considering boosting it. Even baby oil may work in your case. It won't give it truckload of speed, but it will soften up. If you are up to throwing the rubber away you have nothing to lose.

It won't do a 180, but it will help a bit.

Problem is that it's already soft.

Michael Kitt · Jul 23, 2020

The sponge should be harder than the Mantra S you used before. Maybe the topsheet is softer but I kinda doubt that.

Nazmul Haque · Jul 23, 2020

Kuba Hajto said:
Before you throw the rubber away considering boosting it. Even baby oil may work in your case. It won't give it truckload of speed, but it will soften up. If you are up to throwing the rubber away you have nothing to lose.

It won't do a 180, but it will help a bit.

Michael Kitt said:
The sponge should be harder than the Mantra S you used before. Maybe the topsheet is softer but I kinda doubt that.

Yes, the top sheet is softer and the sponge is harder.

Kolev · Jul 23, 2020

After the COVID quarantine I decided to train with Skyline 3 Neo (on a 5p all wood OFF blade)to improve my precision because this rubber seems to be quite unforgiving for bad timing, positioning, stiffness....and so on and so on. With other words-it is not an easy rubber to play with. I boosted with 4 layers of FTL and after 4-5 hours of serious training I came to a level of comfort. When I manage to forget about passive blocking and play relaxed without loosing speed , put emphasis on loop drive I actually started to like this inexpensive rubber and probably may adopt it....(after trying D80 of course

mocker88 · Jul 23, 2020

Sure there are faster Chinese rubbers like DHS Hurricane 3 Neo H41, Yinhe Apollo 5 and Yinhe Moon Pro Hard. But you can't compare these with Euro/Jap rubbers like Mantra or Butterfly rubbers. When playing Chinese rubbers, you'll have to move more and use your whole arm to get the power out of brush looping. I have moved from wooden blades toward carbon blades when using Chinese rubbers. I feel the effect gets a bit higher with these blades. Perhaps because the sponge gets more engaged with a stiffer blade?

Jim · Jul 23, 2020

There are no magical shortcuts to "get more power on forehand".

Put more time and effort into the switch to chinese. This takes time , sweat and sometimes blood.

More logical "solution" maybe would be to go for harder Mantra rubbers as your already familiar with them.

dannyyung · Jul 23, 2020

If you just started to play with chinese rubber, give yourself around at least 2 months to understand its characteristic.

Konrad Bak · Jul 24, 2020

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