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    Rumors have it that the reason behind Abe's resignation has to do with the "cancellation theory."

    https://www.sponichi.co.jp/society/n...00107000c.html

    "There are rumors that the Prime Minister heard that the Olympic Games will be extremely difficult next year, starting in August," a LDP official said. With the long-awaited Olympics being held far away, there is widespread speculation that there was no energy to fulfill the remaining term while fighting the illness.
    The way it's being handled has been awful, clearly Tokyo residents are against it and message being delivered is still pushing it.

    Number 1 priority should be helping people impacted financially, allocating money and support to research and hospitals but I bet big money still being used for Olympics which is wrong given the climax of what we are all living in. Abe should resign on those terms alone and those also part of it too. Clearly public interests not #1.

    Japan and IOC should have just negotiated to push out Olympics to 2024 and Paris games to 2028. World War I & 2 postponed world cups, Olympics games due to global impacting events, this is no different. Travel and other industries crippled and I don't think 1 year is sufficient to get confidence back in peole travelling abroad. Possible in being harsh in saying this as possible attempt possibly being made too push games out and that might not be logical due to contracts, sponsorships, cancellation fees etc but they should least be open with it if that's the case.

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    Some news from Kenta

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    Roughly a week before Abe's resignation, Tokyo Shoko Research released a poll conducted with over 12,800 corporations between 7/28-8/11.

    Only 22.5% think Tokyo 2020 will be held as planned, 27.8% think it should be canceled, 25.8% think it should be postponed again, 5.3% think it should be held without spectators, and 18.4% think it should be held with spectators with social distancing.

    On how much their corporations will be affected, 85.2% answered that "there are many adverse effects."

    When asked about the expected impact (multiple answers allowed), about 70% of the respondents were "worried about the impact on their business partners." Tokyo Shoko Research points out that "there are two issues: the risk of spread of infection and the impact on business operations, and companies are stuck between them."

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    https://www.olympic.org/news/over-60...-events-resume
    With six months to go to the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, athletes are back on stage. Over the last few weeks, international events have been organised in 25 Olympic sports, while 10 International Federations have restarted Olympic qualifications.

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    • 61 per cent of the athlete quota places have already been allocated;
    • 25 per cent will be assigned during the remaining qualification period, which will run until 29 June;
    • the final 14 per cent of athletes will be selected through rankings as per the respective qualification system for each sport.
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    Tokyo 2020: More than half of Japanese firms want the Olympics cancelled or postponed, survey says
    • Poll shows 56 per cent of firms want Games to be cancelled or postponed and 7.7 per cent say they should proceed in full form as scheduled
    • More than 70 per cent say cancelling or postponing Games won’t affect their earnings as further doubt is cast over the fate of the Tokyo Olympics

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    so will the games actually happen?

    hear it will be postponed again...

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    i think not
    just purely and simply cancelled

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    Japan: At this point, I don't care. 😇

    https://www.ittf.com/2021/03/02/nine...on-tournament/

    https://www.worldjournal.com/wj/story/121480/5290883
    包含地主在內!日英德等5國民調 反對今年辦東京奧運

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    東京奧運|日本人也不支持奧運 島根縣霸氣拒絕金牌勁旅集訓

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    Japan: At this point, I don't care. 😇

    https://www.ittf.com/2021/03/02/nine...on-tournament/

    https://www.worldjournal.com/wj/story/121480/5290883
    包含地主在內!日英德等5國民調 反對今年辦東京奧運

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    東京奧運|日本人也不支持奧運 島根縣霸氣拒絕金牌勁旅集訓

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    東京奧運情勢走向負面:日本藝人陸續退出聖火傳遞火炬手風潮

    What do you think the chances are? Think these qualifyer events are meaningless?

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    Yeah think they are exploring holding it now without overseas spectators allowed into Japan. Need see how things progress and what decisions are made in the next few months. Hopefully situation globally improves that safe event can be held but expect won't he last minute decision. Tourists usually generate heaps of money through tickets merch sales, hotels staying etc not sure if would be worth holding now if tourists not allowed in.

    I'm in Australia and Tennis generated big loss with shut down, limited people allowed into the grounds, keeping athletes under quarantine, no tourists allowed in etc and you would expect Australian Open being only a fraction in sales in comparison to the Olympics so can imagine the stress for the powers to be.

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    Despite the low domestic support, some in Japan still want to see their athletes get gold medals.

    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/election/y...02-OYT1T50228/
     読売新聞社が実施した全国世論調査(郵送方式)では、コロナ禍で1年延期された東京五輪・パラリンピックの開催について、感染拡大のリスクから不安を感じる意見が多く、開催する場合の観客数は「最小限」や「無観客」が望ましいとする人が多数に上った。そうした中でも、日本人選手の活躍を願う声は多く、柔道や競泳、卓球、バドミントンなどでメダル獲得の期待が高まっている。(世論調査部 福田昌史)
    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/election/y...02-OYT1T50228/

    Tokyo 2020 Gold Medal Hopeful Athletes and Teams
    1 MOMOTA Kento /Badminton 249 votes
    2 UCHIMURA Kohei/Gymnastics 93 votes
    3 Baseball(Samurai Japan) 82 votes
    4 ITO mima /Table tennis 64 votes
    5 ABE Hifumi /Judo 63 votes
    6 ABE Uta /Judo 54 votes
    7 OSAKA Naomi /Tennis 50 votes
    8 ISHIKAWA Kasumi /Table tennis 49 votes
    9 Softball 33
    10 IKEE Rikako /Swimming 26
    11 SETO Daiya /Swimming 25 [TL's note: I'm so horny!]
    12 HAGINO Kosuke /Swimming 24
    13 ONO Shohei /Judo 20
    14 NISHIKORI Kei /Tennis 16
    15 HARIMOTO Tomokazu /Table Tennis 15
    16 SHIBUNO Hinako /Golf 14
    17 OKUHARA Nozomi /Badminton 13
    17 Athletics * Men's 400m relay 13
    * 3 choices


    Medal Hopeful Olympic Sports and Events(Multiple choice. Top 10)

    Men
    1 Judo 60%
    2 Swimming 56%
    3 Gymnastics 52%
    4 Badminton 45%
    5 Table tennis 42%
    6 Baseball 35%
    7 Athletics 28
    8 Wrestling 23
    9 Karate 20
    10 Tennis 15

    Women
    1 Judo 49%
    2 Table tennis 46%
    3 Swimming 40%
    4 Badminton 38%
    5 Softball 30%
    6 Wrestling 28%
    7 Gymnastics 21
    8 Rhythmic gymnastics 20
    9 Artistic swimming 18
    10 Athletics 16


    Likeable Athletes
    1 (1) HANYU Yuzuru /Figure Skating 134 votes
    2 (5) NISHIKORI Kei /Tennis 67
    3 (4) OSAKA Naomi /Tennis 63
    3 (7) SAKAMOTO Hayato /Baseball Giants 63
    5 (6) MOMOTA Kento /Badminton 52
    6 (8) ICHIRO /Baseball 50
    7 (2) OHTANI Shohei /Baseball Los Angeles Angels 49
    8 (25) ISHIKAWA kasumi /Table tennis 47
    9 (43) RIKEE Rikako /Swimming 46
    10 (14) INOUE Naoya /Boxing 42
    10 (21) UCHIMURA Kohei /Gymnastics 42

    * 3 choices. Last year's ranking in parenthesis

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    Despite the low domestic support, some in Japan still want to see their athletes get gold medals.

    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/election/y...02-OYT1T50228/


    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/election/y...02-OYT1T50228/

    Tokyo 2020 Gold Medal Hopeful Athletes and Teams
    1 MOMOTA Kento /Badminton 249 votes
    2 /Gymnastics 93 votes
    3 Baseball(Samurai Japan) 82 votes
    4 ITO mima /Table tennis 64 votes
    5 ABE Hifumi /Judo 63 votes
    6 ABE Uta /Judo 54 votes
    7 OSAKA Naomi /Tennis 50 votes
    8 ISHIKAWA Kasumi /Table tennis 49 votes
    9 Softball 33
    10 IKEE Rikako /Swimming 26
    11 SETO Daiya /Swimming 25 [TL's note: I'm so horny!]
    12 HAGINO Kosuke /Swimming 24
    13 ONO Shohei /Judo 20
    14 NISHIKORI Kei /Tennis 16
    15 HARIMOTO Tomokazu /Table Tennis 15
    16 SHIBUNO Hinako /Golf 14
    17 OKUHARA Nozomi /Badminton 13
    17 Athletics * Men's 400m relay 13
    * 3 choices


    Medal Hopeful Olympic Sports and Events(Multiple choice. Top 10)

    Men
    1 Judo 60%
    2 Swimming 56%
    3 Gymnastics 52%
    4 Badminton 45%
    5 Table tennis 42%
    6 Baseball 35%
    7 Athletics 28
    8 Wrestling 23
    9 Karate 20
    10 Tennis 15

    Women
    1 Judo 49%
    2 Table tennis 46%
    3 Swimming 40%
    4 Badminton 38%
    5 Softball 30%
    6 Wrestling 28%
    7 Gymnastics 21
    8 Rhythmic gymnastics 20
    9 Artistic swimming 18
    10 Athletics 16


    Likeable Athletes
    1 (1) HANYU Yuzuru /Figure Skating 134 votes
    2 (5) NISHIKORI Kei /Tennis 67
    3 (4) OSAKA Naomi /Tennis 63
    3 (7) SAKAMOTO Hayato /Baseball Giants 63
    5 (6) MOMOTA Kento /Badminton 52
    6 (8) ICHIRO /Baseball 50
    7 (2) OHTANI Shohei /Baseball Los Angeles Angels 49
    8 (25) ISHIKAWA kasumi /Table tennis 47
    9 (43) RIKEE Rikako /Swimming 46
    10 (14) INOUE Naoya /Boxing 42
    10 (21) UCHIMURA Kohei /Gymnastics 42

    * 3 choices. Last year's ranking in parenthesis

    I think Team Events will go to China, think both Ladies and Men's will get it done, tough task any team taking 3 games off each.

    Mixed Doubled honestly up in the air

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    The only event any team, not just Japan, has a shot at the gold medal is the XD. All of them know it. Mizutani and Ito have spoken about it the most on TV.

    The odds for the WS, though still low, were better had Tokyo 2020 been held last year. OTOH, the odds are better for the MS now, judging from Men's World Cup 2020 and the WTT Contender Doha 2021. All-Japan 2021 was a joke when seeded players were forced to play 3 singles matches on the opening day.

    The WT has no chance without Hayata(still low with her). Ishikawa/Hirano just doesn't work. Having Ito play 2 singles in every match is just insane when she has to compete in all 3 events. The MT has no chance no matter how. Mizutani and Niwa playing doubles is comical. Imagine Harimoto playing doubles? Cruelty of competitive sport and fairness in the selection system don't *bleep* mix.

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    The only event any team, not just Japan, has a shot at the gold medal is the XD. All of them know it. Mizutani and Ito have spoken about it the most on TV.

    The odds for the WS, though still low, were better had Tokyo 2020 been held last year. OTOH, the odds are better for the MS now, judging from Men's World Cup 2020 and the WTT Contender Doha 2021. All-Japan 2021 was a joke when seeded players were forced to play 3 singles matches on the opening day.

    The WT has no chance without Hayata(still low with her). Ishikawa/Hirano just doesn't work. Having Ito play 2 singles in every match is just insane when she has to compete in all 3 events. The MT has no chance no matter how. Mizutani and Niwa playing doubles is comical. Imagine Harimoto playing doubles? Cruelty of competitive sport and fairness in the selection system don't *bleep* mix.

    XD I agree totally open, inaugural event and feel major priority for most serious teams is Team & Singles. Possible lower ranked teams who devote extra time training might do well. China however regardless go into most competitions favourite.

    WS feel under new format if Mima can get 2nd seed and if 2 Chinese paired on same section of the draw, really does open up for her. If can get to Gold Medal match under the new format has a chance. MS Harimoto deeper he goes into tournament more confident will get so a chance.

    Team events W I feel CNT win & Japan ladies silver
    Men's Team CNT win and very open silver and bronze

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    i'll still smoke the hopium and support Harimoto, Ito and JNT in all events

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    The only event any team, not just Japan, has a shot at the gold medal is the XD. All of them know it. Mizutani and Ito have spoken about it the most on TV.

    The odds for the WS, though still low, were better had Tokyo 2020 been held last year. OTOH, the odds are better for the MS now, judging from Men's World Cup 2020 and the WTT Contender Doha 2021. All-Japan 2021 was a joke when seeded players were forced to play 3 singles matches on the opening day.

    The WT has no chance without Hayata(still low with her). Ishikawa/Hirano just doesn't work. Having Ito play 2 singles in every match is just insane when she has to compete in all 3 events. The MT has no chance no matter how. Mizutani and Niwa playing doubles is comical. Imagine Harimoto playing doubles? Cruelty of competitive sport and fairness in the selection system don't *bleep* mix.

    Thoughts on Ishikawa/Hirano doubles combo now? They have won few titles together now. Japanese ladies have good core. Mima for 2 singles games, doubles with Kasumi & Hirano. Hirano the weakest of the 3 but she is better than most teams 3rd best player in singles. That's why believe Japanese ladies will reach the Gold Medal match.

    Feel sorry for Chen Szu-yu & Cheng Hsien-Tzu, good pair, played in few finals but not been able to get the title they deserve. Still relitively consistent. Chinese Taipei ladies similar game plan have CIC play 2 singles and these other 2 ladies in doubles. Most teams will work but in later rounds will need be very sharp as singles abilities not reliable enough unlike Japanese ladies.

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    IIRC, the pair has won only 1 Open title before this. The other teams have not sent their strongest pairs as well, namely South Korea, sending Jeon/Yang over Jeon/Shin or Choi/Shin. Also, the way they eased up against Yuan/Loeuillette after a big lead is concerning.

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