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      LF faster and harder blade than Innerforce AL

      Hello guys,
      Since a few months I'm training a new Playstyle, from two winged Looping(mainly FH) to Short Pips on FH.
      The last 2 years I played a Innerforce AL (first edition) with Fastarc G1 on FH and Fastarc C1 on BH.
      Since training the SP (Victas Vo<102) on FH, I needed to adapt a lot and am still doing so. But now I have some issues with the new playstyle, Smashing and Driving with the Pips is good, but blocking to fast Topspins is hard. On the BHside, since I twiddle the Blade to make my FH services, I see, that the services aren't as good with the C1 than with the G1, longer an less Spin. First Topspin on BS is still very good, but the faster TS Followup is quite hard, it misses Power, no matter how fast I accelerate with my Hand. Blocking on BH is another difficutly, too often the Ball misses the edge of the Table by less than a cm. Now with the new Playstyle, I need to block more often and I need to use the BH Topspin more (especially as follow-up or Smashspin). I thought of changing the C1 for a G1 or Vega X, but I think that the Problem is more on the Innerforce AL, which is a fantastic Blade, but it is too soft for the new play and the catapult is killing the Blocks.
      The main inspiration for my game is Mattias Falck, while I will never achieve his level of play, which I am aware , the way he plays is what I am training for, close to the table, Spin on BH and Speed on FH, combined with good driving and blocking.

      So by consequence I decided to change for a harder and faster blade. A few Alternatives I already looked at: Andro Treiber CI or CO, Gewo Force ARC, Butterfly Viscaria, among others but these are my favorites right now.
      So I am asking for your advice, what would you recommend. Pricewise, a Viscaria is the most I will pay, no way that I buy a Blade more expensive. 130€ is already too expensive in my eyes, but there you go...

      Thx in advance

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      Have you looked at the new Flack blade? Haven't tried it but he supposedly uses it.

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      Of course I have never seen you playing, but I had similar problems with the C-1 and still like the G-1. Therefore your plan to use the G-1 on backhand seems to be a good idea, but I would use it in 1,8 mm (thick).

      On the forehand-side you could still use the G-1 if you change the blade. Otherwise the Tibhar Gurus Prime (2,9 mm) could be an option, because the feeling is not far away from the G-1, but a bit faster and a bit lower through.

      If you want to change the wood, I recommend the first version of the Innerforce ALC. The construction is the same as on your IF AL, but with acylate-carbon instead of arylate. If you are interested in such an old Innerforce ALC, feel free to contact me with PM.

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      Yes I had a look, but 190€ is exaggerated... Could be the same as the new Donic Carbon Blade. I also looked at the Ma Lin Carbon he played before, at 55€ that is actually big pro for that blade
      Thx for your insight at the C1 G1 thing. I still wonder because of the catapult once I play a harder blade? I'd say i need a bit more to compensate with a harder blade?

      I will stick with SP on FH, it is a question of (shoulder)health, but Aurus Prime is a nice Cover, played it when it came out, but then I had to withdraw because of some injuries.
      I already tested the ALC once, as well as ZLF or ZLC, but that was years ago and they don't fit in my price Range, I refuse to pay that much, especially for Butterfly

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      Quote Originally Posted by 1988.lux-yk View Post
      Hello guys,
      Since a few months I'm training a new Playstyle, from two winged Looping(mainly FH) to Short Pips on FH.
      The last 2 years I played a Innerforce AL (first edition) with Fastarc G1 on FH and Fastarc C1 on BH.
      Since training the SP (Victas Vo<102) on FH, I needed to adapt a lot and am still doing so. But now I have some issues with the new playstyle, Smashing and Driving with the Pips is good, but blocking to fast Topspins is hard. On the BHside, since I twiddle the Blade to make my FH services, I see, that the services aren't as good with the C1 than with the G1, longer an less Spin. First Topspin on BS is still very good, but the faster TS Followup is quite hard, it misses Power, no matter how fast I accelerate with my Hand. Blocking on BH is another difficutly, too often the Ball misses the edge of the Table by less than a cm. Now with the new Playstyle, I need to block more often and I need to use the BH Topspin more (especially as follow-up or Smashspin). I thought of changing the C1 for a G1 or Vega X, but I think that the Problem is more on the Innerforce AL, which is a fantastic Blade, but it is too soft for the new play and the catapult is killing the Blocks.
      The main inspiration for my game is Mattias Falck, while I will never achieve his level of play, which I am aware , the way he plays is what I am training for, close to the table, Spin on BH and Speed on FH, combined with good driving and blocking.

      So by consequence I decided to change for a harder and faster blade. A few Alternatives I already looked at: Andro Treiber CI or CO, Gewo Force ARC, Butterfly Viscaria, among others but these are my favorites right now.
      So I am asking for your advice, what would you recommend. Pricewise, a Viscaria is the most I will pay, no way that I buy a Blade more expensive. 130€ is already too expensive in my eyes, but there you go...

      Thx in advance
      Gewo force arc !you might want to try ? l have 2 for sale 30 euros each seems cheap they are 95 euros new . the handle was anatomic but l found it too thin at the neck so l beefed it up with glued veneers , you [or l can] file it down to any shape and dimensions from flare to an to st

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      I find G-1 quite tricky to use on the BH side. C-1 is much more forgiving. I’ve been going back and forth between Rakza 7 and MX-P since I ditched G-1 and I find that MX-P pretty much sits in between Rakza 7 and G-1.

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      Thx for the offer, but a friend at my club owns the blade and lends it to me for Testing Reasons. Can you add an argument other than you like to sell ?

      Yes I think just that with G1 on BH, but I could try since I still have the old ones somewhere. MX-P or S is something I am considering, played it a few years ago, before Aurus Prime. Other Rubbers would be Vega X, Rakza Z, DNA Pro M.

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      DNA Pro M was a disaster for me. Like a crappy version of R47 that I also hate with a passion.

      I know of quite a few players that tried DNA when it came out but pretty much everyone has switched back to Mantra or Tenergy 05.

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      We ALL face the same realities of we are not elite rich... or are common folk who have sacrificed, then worked hard enough long enough for decades to save some funds for stuff like this later in our lives...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte View Post
      We ALL face the same realities [...] right??
      I'm sorry, but you are clearly off-topic. If you did not understand the initial Question, I can rephrase it.

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      Got a 81g Force ARC to test. Will see how that goes, might give a major insight. But unfortunately I don't think Training will be possible till next week.

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