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      Advice against a chopper/blocker

      How do you play against an opponent who blocks/chops every shot you do, sometimes i get so frustrated I overplay the ball and goes out or I get into chopping/underspin battles

      drives me crazy

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      Learn to be patient.

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      This video has always been my go to on tactics on how to deal with a chopper.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4G_KHfLsCE

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      Quote Originally Posted by vvk1 View Post
      Learn to be patient.
      I guess that is a good idea, first time I've played against someone like that, I keep on attacking the ball until I make a mistake
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      This video has always been my go to on tactics on how to deal with a chopper.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4G_KHfLsCE
      thanks , I'll check this out

      what drives me crazy are the short underspin balls , I get confused whether to flick them or just push lols

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      is he a chopper or do you mean that he pushes a lot and then block?

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      Learn to loop better and start at late contact when the ball is going down after the bounce.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lula View Post
      is he a chopper or do you mean that he pushes a lot and then block?
      all of that, a defensive player, no topspin, all blocks, chops, underspin, slices

      just thinking about the matches earlier makes me sad lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear View Post
      Learn to loop better and start at late contact when the ball is going down after the bounce.
      good idea, I guess it exposed my poor techniques because before that, all the players I've played were mostly attackers too so I didn't have to do much to return the ball

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      Try searching for videos against Hou YingChao <CHN> or Joo SaeHyuk <Korea> too.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tt_beginner View Post
      I guess that is a good idea, first time I've played against someone like that, I keep on attacking the ball until I make a mistake thanks , I'll check this out

      what drives me crazy are the short underspin balls , I get confused whether to flick them or just push lols
      Outlasting the opponent till they make a mistake is basically what any defender's game plan is about. That's why patience and avoidance of unnecessary risk (like trying to flick short underspin balls) is key. Another point is to attack the chopper's middle and try to bring them in and out, not side to side. Good luck. Post a video of you vs your opponent - you might get some valuable insights from forum members.

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      Vary placement and tempo. This Will make it harder for him to block or and defend well.

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      If those chopers do not use pips, consider using heavy topspin +/- sidespin serves or fast empty/topspin serves. Those are hard to push. If your opponent either gives you an empty ball back or attacks the ball. Both outcomes should be handleable.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vvk1 View Post
      Outlasting the opponent till they make a mistake is basically what any defender's game plan is about. That's why patience and avoidance of unnecessary risk (like trying to flick short underspin balls) is key. Another point is to attack the chopper's middle and try to bring them in and out, not side to side. Good luck. Post a video of you vs your opponent - you might get some valuable insights from forum members.
      yeah, been trying to flick short underspin balls, not good lol
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      Vary placement and tempo. This Will make it harder for him to block or and defend well.
      I should remember this, I got so frustrated and was trying to overpower him lol
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      If those chopers do not use pips, consider using heavy topspin +/- sidespin serves or fast empty/topspin serves. Those are hard to push. If your opponent either gives you an empty ball back or attacks the ball. Both outcomes should be handleable.
      yup no pips

      actually I'm glad I lost majority of the sets to the defensive player, just shows which area I should work on, especially my looping, previously was just counter hitting other players lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by tt_beginner View Post
      up no pips
      How much variance are you in terms of speed and speed are you giving this player? Are you doing only full power smash/drive?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto View Post
      How much variance are you in terms of speed and speed are you giving this player? Are you doing only full power smash/drive?
      that was the problem, was trying to hulk smash everything earlier lol

      next session is on Friday lol lots of table tennis videos watching to do

      thanks for the advice guys, lots of mistakes on my part

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      Remember, don't beat yourself. You don't need to play likhe Ma Long just yet. Pick your shots to attack, try to set it up by making your opponent move. Don't always attack to the same place. Don't forget to attack at his body.

      Most of all, don't beat yourself. The problem with watching lots of videos is if you aren't good enough to execute what you see. And pros easily do things amateurs have problems executing consistently.
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      Bait them to make a weak attack and then counter lull

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      You could always play very fast top or no spin serves. Is he able to push ("skära") those serves? At least you would be in control during the points when you serve.

      If he's a true long distance chopper then move him in and out from the table. Loop. Push. Loop. Push until infinity and beyond.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tt_beginner View Post
      that was the problem, was trying to hulk smash everything earlier lol

      next session is on Friday lol lots of table tennis videos watching to do

      thanks for the advice guys, lots of mistakes on my part
      Give him spinny boy and follow it up with fast kill or vice versa. Repeat. If he doesn't have pips and is blocking with inverted. He will have to adjust constantly. The spin variation will help you. You can do everything in between to throw him off his game. Just don't do the same thing a few times in a row. In my case usually crosscourt loop, followed by down the line loop drive finished by cross court smash solved that problem (or variation of those). Usually if someone was playing that kind of game, didn't get up to 3rd attack (7th ball?).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Baal View Post
      Remember, don't beat yourself. You don't need to play likhe Ma Long just yet. Pick your shots to attack, try to set it up by making your opponent move. Don't always attack to the same place. Don't forget to attack at his body.

      Most of all, don't beat yourself. The problem with watching lots of videos is if you aren't good enough to execute what you see. And pros easily do things amateurs have problems executing consistently.
      yes, I had some success attacking to his body, and yup I will keep it simple, stick to one video first lol
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      Bait them to make a weak attack and then counter lull
      yeah I was trying to attack everything lol
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      You could always play very fast top or no spin serves. Is he able to push ("skära") those serves? At least you would be in control during the points when you serve.

      If he's a true long distance chopper then move him in and out from the table. Loop. Push. Loop. Push until infinity and beyond.
      I will try a fast top spin serve
      Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto View Post
      Give him spinny boy and follow it up with fast kill or vice versa. Repeat. If he doesn't have pips and is blocking with inverted. He will have to adjust constantly. The spin variation will help you. You can do everything in between to throw him off his game. Just don't do the same thing a few times in a row. In my case usually crosscourt loop, followed by down the line loop drive finished by cross court smash solved that problem (or variation of those). Usually if someone was playing that kind of game, didn't get up to 3rd attack (7th ball?).
      I guess I didn't do much variation and just kept on trying to overpower the backspin with topspin lol

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