8 Common Mistakes in FH Loop

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Thanks. That's a great vid. I definetly have some of nr. 1. Logically I've been trying to do a more compact motion as mentioned as solution to get the timing right. I'm also trying to go for the triangle thing to hit the ball right in front of my body. Helps Looking at the ball, but makes me a bit dizzy after a while haha.

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You can tell somebody to relax. But how does one get them to do it? The harder they try…

I think it was Brett Clark who said that being/ looking relaxed comes from having good technique BUT when a player is not relaxed it is not enough to just tell them to relax, instead you need to find where the tension is being created.

So I think it's fine for a learner to look tense in places since this will naturally smooth out as they follow their coaches corrections.
 
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I think being relaxed is kinda misleading in table tennis. By hitting a forehand topspin you need to recruit nearly all the nuscles in your Body. Being relaxed and having no tension in your body would damage your shoulder and/or your Back depending on how hard you are usually hitting.

But the relaxing part is damn important after a stroke. If you watch a pro hitting backhand into forehand for example you can clearly see how he or she tightens up by the time the stroke is performed and instantly relaxes afterwards in order to get to the neutral position and correct the grip on the racket for the next stroke.
This is needed so you are able to move faster between your stance in which you are hitting the ball to the stance in which xou want to move your body afterwards.

For example Timo Boll released a video on his channel where he performs a 2x forehand into 2x backhand topspin. In the slownotion you see clearly the switch from tensed strokes to relaxed switching grip and moving his body.
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Name="List Table 7 Colorful Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Mention"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Smart Hyperlink"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Hashtag"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Unresolved Mention"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Smart Link"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Normal tabell"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:8.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:107%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; 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I really like how you first show what they do wrong and then shows the result after improvements. It makes it very easy to understand and learn! Keep up the good work, looking forward for more videos!
 
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I think being relaxed is kinda misleading in table tennis. By hitting a forehand topspin you need to recruit nearly all the nuscles in your Body. Being relaxed and having no tension in your body would damage your shoulder and/or your Back depending on how hard you are usually hitting.

But the relaxing part is damn important after a stroke. If you watch a pro hitting backhand into forehand for example you can clearly see how he or she tightens up by the time the stroke is performed and instantly relaxes afterwards in order to get to the neutral position and correct the grip on the racket for the next stroke.
This is needed so you are able to move faster between your stance in which you are hitting the ball to the stance in which xou want to move your body afterwards.

For example Timo Boll released a video on his channel where he performs a 2x forehand into 2x backhand topspin. In the slownotion you see clearly the switch from tensed strokes to relaxed switching grip and moving his body.
Hope that helps

I totally agree with what you're saying, and I made this exact point in another video: https://youtu.be/r7Blj0oXO9I

In fact, instantaneous/explosive acceleration/tensing was one of the 3 big ideas I talked about, just not in the 8 mistakes video :)
 
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I understand that my arms in general should be relaxed. But should I hold my racket in my hand firmly? I play with a regular commercial hurricane 3 rubber and it's difficult for me to overpower the opponents that use tensor rubbers because of the catapult effect that they have. And so I noticed that if I don't hold the racket very firmly, my forehand strokes are too weak to counter them especially that I'm using the H3 rubber which is very dull and need to hit the ball very hard with it in order to match the pace and energy of the opponents I'm playing with, that use fast tensor rubbers with built-in catapult effect.
 
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I understand that my arms in general should be relaxed. But should I hold my racket in my hand firmly? I play with a regular commercial hurricane 3 rubber and it's difficult for me to overpower the opponents that use tensor rubbers because of the catapult effect that they have. And so I noticed that if I don't hold the racket very firmly, my forehand strokes are too weak to counter them especially that I'm using the H3 rubber which is very dull and need to hit the ball very hard with it in order to match the pace and energy of the opponents I'm playing with, that use fast tensor rubbers with built-in catapult effect.

For the grip it is the same as i said before for the body.
The moment you go for the stroke you tighten pretty much everything. Your grip too. The only thing which might stay lose is your wrist.

This is the case because if you need to switch from a backhand stroke to a forhand topspin you need to switch your grip. While hitting with your backhand your thumb should be more on the forehand rubber to be able to use your wrist more controllable. While for a forehand stroke you move the thumb a little more the left, off the forehand rubber. You literally cant do that if you grip is still tight after a stroke.

The tough part is, being able to do that very fast^^
 
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Yea but for the chinese-style attack using hard chinese rubber, the stroke that Timo Boll does in his latest video which is just a light brush with an upward movement is not going to work with the chinese rubbers. It only works for euro/japanese rubbers.

All of the chinese players hit very hard with their forehand, as it's required when using hard tacky rubbers.

And I feel like my shots aren't going to go anywhere using my H3 rubber if I don't grip all my fingers pretty firm perhaps only with the exception of the thumb which should be a little bit more loose than the other fingers in order to allow for it to move depending on which shot is being executed. But the other 4 fingers it seems like they should grip the racket handle pretty firm and only allow the thumb to be a little bit more loose.
 
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Yea but for the chinese-style attack using hard chinese rubber, the stroke that Timo Boll does in his latest video which is just a light brush with an upward movement is not going to work with the chinese rubbers. It only works for euro/japanese rubbers.

All of the chinese players hit very hard with their forehand, as it's required when using hard tacky rubbers.

And I feel like my shots aren't going to go anywhere using my H3 rubber if I don't grip all my fingers pretty firm perhaps only with the exception of the thumb which should be a little bit more loose than the other fingers in order to allow for it to move depending on which shot is being executed. But the other 4 fingers it seems like they should grip the racket handle pretty firm and only allow the thumb to be a little bit more loose.

You should grip firmly exactly when you touch the ball or a split second before that. If your grip is tight the entire time while you play, you won't have the ability to adjust and you will play too tense. Relax your grip after every shot you perform, and squeeze your hand as you hit the ball.

The timing of acceleration is the same whether you're "chinese" or "european" technique, just the direction of stroke is different. If you watch Ma Long or Timo Boll, the acceleration of their stroke is always joined with tension in the body/hand followed by release of the tension. Let me know if that makes sense!
 
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Yeah I even noticed this myself when I played today, all my FH strokes were actually successful after I applied the force in my grip literally a fracture of a second before hitting the ball.

So this is definitely one of the top advice to give to anyone that is trying to improve their FH because it feels like after this advice the FH stroke suddenly works a lot better.
 
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Yeah I even noticed this myself when I played today, all my FH strokes were actually successful after I applied the force in my grip literally a fracture of a second before hitting the ball.

So this is definitely one of the top advice to give to anyone that is trying to improve their FH because it feels like after this advice the FH stroke suddenly works a lot better.

Glad it worked out for you! Here's a new video I just published on backhand so you can improve that too :)
https://youtu.be/Oubhh55_YoQ
 
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