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    I agree that you need some kind of edge. I believe that the edge is the game table tennis. Going mainstream, adding fireworks, music, beefs, and borrowing similar things from other sports would not be to work on edge or what´s unique about table tennis.
    Ever heard of Tiger Woods, John Daly, Bubba Watson, Nick Kyrgios, Novak Djokovic, Maria Sharapova, Serena Williams, John McEnroe, Billie Jean King? Any idea what aspect of those players have made them popular outside of the golf and tennis worlds? Was it the details of their forehand and backhand techniques?

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    hey guys, give him a breath
    I like both Harimoto & Lin Yun Ju. Is that legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quanghuysk
    hey guys, give him a breath
    I like both Harimoto & Lin Yun Ju. Is that legal?
    I don't think so. I think that these days, hip kids call it being BI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke James
    [...] Ma Long Xu Xin or Wang Chuqin (in short those who can beat him ) when opposed to him are annoyed [...]
    Did you talk with them personally? I would like to get source of this statement.

    If I play against someone that chole's, it makes the games more intense and "serious"; which is why I chole back. Not because I am annoyed, but because the game itself is intense and it makes me focus/play better.

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    7 out of 11 comments dissing an underage individual who brings glory for your "great" country. *clap* x3

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/46...da1839f9725aa3
    https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020...13867644.shtml
    gza***** | 16時間前
    サッカーはゴール決めれば皆集まって騒ぐ 100m走で五輪優勝すればゴール後飛び跳ねる
    それらと一緒なんだけどな~ 得点すれば自然に”ヤッター”となる卓球だけがあーだこーだ言われるのはまだ世間様に見るスポーツとして浸透してないからかな
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    psk***** | 17時間前
    ここのコメ欄もひどいが、youtubeの国際チャンネルでも外国人に似たようなこと言われて結構海外にも張本アンチ多いんだよな
    俺は好きなんだけどね、ポイント後の叫び
    5/8

    kak***** | 1日前
    卓球選手全般に言えるが一点取ったごとに雄叫びがうるさい。
    なんやねんあれは。テーブルテニスなら少しは紳士のスポーツテニスを見習え。
    17/34

    dan***** | 1日前
    張本 静かにプレーしろ うるさい
    25/32

    1218億り人 | 1日前
    この人、ポイント入ったらめちゃくちゃうるさいけど、負けたらすごく静かで面白い。
    スポーツでこんな吠えてたら結構迷惑なタイプ。
    33/60

    rau***** | 1日前
    チョレイ、チョレイ、うるせー。
    対戦相手がコイツなら抗議する。
    もう少し静かにしてって。
    33/48

    haruru | 1日前
    彼の100分の1も努力して生きてないやつらの心ないコメントばかりですが、卓球で3位すごすぎます。
    おめでとうございます。
    24/15

    fzm***** | 1日前
    韓国に勝ったから胸がすく思いです
    13/14

    rik***** | 1日前
    めっちゃ偏見やけど
    なんだかこの人、生理的に無理なんだよなぁ

    あと
    卓球特有の得点後のアピールが嫌いっす
    モチベ、テンション維持に必要なのかもやけど
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    gql***** | 1日前
    まじでバカみたいに叫ぶのやめてくんないかな
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    mar***** | 1日前
    無駄に叫ぶわりにメンタル弱くて笑う。接戦に弱いよね。相手が格下だからなんとかなったが。弱い犬ほどよく吠えるをある意味体現してる。
    19/44
    gza***** | 16 hours ago
    As soon as a goal is scored in football, everyone gathers together to make a fuss. If you run 100 meters to win the Olympic champion, you will jump after the finish line.
    Same as those, if you score, it naturally becomes a "yatta". Only table tennis is said to be like that is because it has not yet penetrated as common sport seen by the public.
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    psk***** | 17 hours ago
    The comment section here is very rude. Similar comments by foreigners on the international youtube channel. Many anti-Harimoto people overseas.
    I like it, the shout after a point
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    kak***** | 1 day ago
    Although it can be said that they are all table tennis players, every time they score a point, the shouts are very noisy.
    What is that. For table tennis, learn a little from gentleman's sport like tennis.
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    dan***** | 1 day ago
    Hari, play quietly, it's too noisy
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    1218亿り人 | 1 day ago
    This person is very noisy after scoring, and very quiet and fun if he loses.
    This kind of sport is really annoying.
    33/60

    rau***** | 1 day ago
    Cholei, cholei, so noisy.
    If the opponent is this guy, then protest.
    Please be quiet.
    33/48

    haruru | 1 day ago
    Just heartbreaking comments from those who haven't lived even one-hundredth of his efforts, but it's too great to come in third in table tennis.
    Congratulations.
    24/15


    fzm***** | 1 day ago
    I'm very happy for winning Korea
    13/14

    rik** | 1 day ago
    Though it's a big prejudice
    I always feel that this person is not physically good
    And then
    I hate the celebration after scoring that's peculiar to table tennis
    Necessary to maintain motivation and emotions
    29/47

    gql**** | 1 day ago
    Don't yell like a fool, honestly
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    Obviously a useless cry, but his heart was very fragile, smiling. Not good at close combat. Because the oppoenent's ranking is lower, I came up with a solution. The weaker the dog, the better it can bark, which is reflected in a sense.
    19/44



    Szocs and Mori are loud AF but nobody really care about them. Folks in China know them and they don't really complain or even comment about their choing much at all since they don't pose any threat.

    Still, Mori has a fitting nickname - 殺豬妹, literally "pig slaughter girl". I'm not aware of any nickname for Szocs. Poor girl.

    Anyway. The Japanese public and media love rankings of anything, for whatever reasons. Will see how the public ranks Harimoto and Ito after the #RESTART.

    IIRC, Ito has actually spoken on this issue on her twitter and showed her support for Harimoto 2 years ago after he dethroned Mizuntani at the All-Japan 2018. So Takei, a Japanese talent and former track and field athlete, host for the TV program "Table Tennis Japan", has also shown his support.

    https://twitter.com/MSLpN5xiejmc2Ho/...92363468632065
    伊藤 美誠 Mima Ito @MSLpN5xiejmc2Ho · Jan 23, 2018
    勝手に出ちゃうんだよね、、
    集中してるから。
    やっぱ声の出し方は人それぞれだとおもうよ
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    Mima Ito @ MSLpN5xiejmc2Ho · Jan 23, 2018
    It comes out naturally, right?
    'coz I'm focused.
    I think each person has their own way of making a voice.
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    武井壮 @sosotakei · Jan 23, 2018
    スポーツやってて自分に勝った相手がガッツポーズして雄叫び上げてるの失礼だと思ったりリスペクトが無いなんて思った事も一度もないわ。。それ見て悔しいのは、自分がその雄叫びを上げて勝利を味わえなかった事だ。また鍛えていつか勝つその日を目指すのみ。リスペクトがあるからこその雄叫びだよな。
    So Takei @sosotakei · Jan 23, 2018
    I've never thought that it was rude to have a guts pose and screaming at someone who beat me in sports, and I never thought I had no respect...What is disappointing to see is that I couldn't scream and enjoy the victory. Only aim for the day when you train and win someday. It's a scream because of respect.

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    The point you are making is one to consider on the level of small tournaments and club play.

    In a tournament, if, asking the player who is shouting in the middle of the points in your match is met with the response you described, there are a few things that would be beneficial to do:

    1) You could call a let on any point where the player was shouting in the middle of the point in your match.
    2) You could bring to the attention of the people running the tournament that this player is shouting in the middle of the points of your match.
    3) You can also let the people running the match know the approximate number of points called lets as a result of this person shouting during your play, and the amount of time it has added to your match.

    Then the people running the tournament can resolve the issue in a sensible manner.

    In a club scenario, if a player is doing things like this during play, and it is affecting your play, and the player will not stop, you talk to club management.

    These issues are ones that may need to be handled. But they are different than complaints by spectators about a top pro, WHEN it does not seem that ANY TOP PROS are making any such complaints about a player like Harimoto.
    Absolutely Agree with you on this Carl and to be honest, I had to request the organizers for this issue but it is only this much they can do and that is to ask the person to keep it low. However, they cannot take any further action. Also, it gets very impractical and the opponent also might accuse you of unfairness if you missed a point and called it a let. As the shout and missing happened simultaneously it is difficult to call a let if and then miss a point.
    Coming to the screaming of Harimoto, In my humble opinion, choing is an art to let go your pressure and back your self up. I have seen top players saying 'yessaa' or 'cho' when they bring out the best in themselves and win a particularly difficult point or a rally. That makes complete sense to me. However, screaming such that your opponent gets a heart attack is something extreme and that is what how it feels to me when I see Harimoto shouting on every point. Of course he is a world class player and it is not his shouting skills which have brought him this far but take a note when now he starts loosing points in a row he goes mute. Although he is still giving his best but his opponent is doing better. If it is really screaming which brings the best out of him then why not scream every time be it his point or not.

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    It's really easy for me. When I see a new match come up on you tube (The only place to get TT in the US it seems), if it is Harimoto, I do not click on it. I don't debate the respectful side or not. It's just simply annoying to watch. Just like soccer banning the Zooza phone. The majority of people are turned off. Also that brings up the noise makers at the T2 events. That is also annoying.

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    Talking of Ali bieng brought up repeatedly it would be great to be exactly like that. Boxing banned talking and the like in the ring ages ago because of him. But equally look at boxing forums and AJ is ridiculed for bieng humble and talking politely.

    McEnroe is famous for his bad attitude and back talk. But look he got entire matches disqualified for it.

    Golf? Dont see tiger doing a dime esque pleasure moan into the ear of every swing of his opponent.

    Actually it's very rare to see somone celebrate every minor point. Football players are a bad example because it's been years that their drama has made headline news and mockery but also they celebrate goals only which are usually about 1 in 40 minutes.

    Look at neymar, money and successes and fame beyond even ma long dream let alone harimoto, harimoto is as far from him as I am from harimoto. What happened when he was bieng too stubborn about his fake acting. He was made into a complete laughing stock.

    I don't know why people think because I dislike his screaming I am jealous.
    Honestly I am mostly annoyed because he is one of the few who can make a difference in a tournament and beat unexpected people but I can't stand to watch his games.

    But I praised him badly last three comments and almost so has everyone who hates his screaming. We all said we like him.

    But those who dream harimoto filled dreams think that dislike of just his voicing means we dislike him, yet we are sensitive .

    And as said if Tomo really benefits from the push it gives him and isn't to neg his opponent then it's interesting that he does it less when he is bieng beaten, which if my understanding is correct is when he should need it more than ever.

    Inb4 those clankity tomokazu (TM) keyboards are flexed by the hiki in the thread.

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    Did you talk with them personally? I would like to get source of this statement.

    If I play against someone that chole's, it makes the games more intense and "serious"; which is why I chole back. Not because I am annoyed, but because the game itself is intense and it makes me focus/play better.
    No I didn't talk to them. The only words I said to Ma Long it was "come on MA long" once I had the pleasure to see him play. I suppose
    that if a player is shouting more then Harimoto when facing him it's because he is annoyed. But it is not a confirmation that the screaming of Harimoto is disrespectful.It is just that some players are annoyed that'all.

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    Absolutely Agree with you on this Carl and to be honest, I had to request the organizers for this issue but it is only this much they can do and that is to ask the person to keep it low. However, they cannot take any further action. Also, it gets very impractical and the opponent also might accuse you of unfairness if you missed a point and called it a let. As the shout and missing happened simultaneously it is difficult to call a let if and then miss a point.
    Coming to the screaming of Harimoto, In my humble opinion, choing is an art to let go your pressure and back your self up. I have seen top players saying 'yessaa' or 'cho' when they bring out the best in themselves and win a particularly difficult point or a rally. That makes complete sense to me. However, screaming such that your opponent gets a heart attack is something extreme and that is what how it feels to me when I see Harimoto shouting on every point. Of course he is a world class player and it is not his shouting skills which have brought him this far but take a note when now he starts loosing points in a row he goes mute. Although he is still giving his best but his opponent is doing better. If it is really screaming which brings the best out of him then why not scream every time be it his point or not.
    If you hold up your hand and stop playing as the shouting occurs, it will be clear why you are stopping. I would suggest, in the scenario you described, to talk to your opponent and get him to call lets when the player shouts as well so you are BOTH presenting the information to the tournament organizers. If you make note to the organizers of a tournament how many lets were caused in your match and how much extra time was consumed, it should be in their interest to reprimand a player who is disturbing multiple matches.

    If not, then you can also review the organizers of the tournament as not being competent to organize the event and explain why you have the opinion which would include how many lets were called in your match and how the organizers of the event did not do anything about the offending player. Bad press in social media about specific people running a tournament can be effective.

    So there are always ways of handling things like what you are describing.

    As far as Harimoto, I am fine with people disliking his noise. I am fine with people who don't care about his noise. But thinking it is detrimental to the sport and action should be taken, well, I think someone in that boat should find more important things to worry about.

    I have seen plenty of mind games in TT matches. Harimoto screaming does not come close. And the good players I have seen handled the mind games just fine.

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    I've seen a couple of posts now that ask why HT does not cho when he loses a point or is being beaten. Because that makes no sense to do so. Who does that? A cho or a 'come on' is a positive affirmation after winning a point as if to say "Yes! Let's keep it going". This is the same for any sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pongfugrasshopper
    I've seen a couple of posts now that ask why HT does not cho when he loses a point or is being beaten. Because that makes no sense to do so. Who does that? A cho or a 'come on' is a positive affirmation after winning a point as if to say "Yes! Let's keep it going". This is the same for any sport.
    The point is that tension can be released after every point and that the celebration mechanism is designed to intimidate the opponent. Nadal may bounce the ball more on critical points but he isn't going to scream so loudly that it is obnoxious to his opponent.

    Harimoto is doing more than just choing. No one gets annoyed by just choing.

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    [...] a player is shouting more then Harimoto when facing him it's because he is annoyed. [...]
    Like I said prior to this comment, have you talked with them personally? You would never know, which is why you cannot come to this conclusion. But it seems you might not get it.

    The reason people chole in the first place is to get "pumped", it would make sense that people chole louder and louder throughout the course of the game. It would also make sense to chole louder, if your opponent chole loud. It has nothing to do with people being annoyed, get it out of your head.

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    have they always cho’d loudly??
    No one answered this question, why??
    tournaments in Japan are now apparently full of shouting youngsters?
    what I’m asking is, has the Choing at tournaments started / become more normal since Harimoto became famous? Did he always shout?? Or is this a more recent trait?

    When i started playing again, a couple of years ago, I watched a couple of Harimoto’s matches, WOW, what a talent, this young man is gonna be world champ came straight into my head!!! The choing was there but, is just me ? Or has it got worse?? I think it has got worse and louder? But because of the next paragraph below I don’t know??!!!

    Generally I can only watch highlights of matches, these are compressed down a lot. So for one point (time from serve to next serve is maybe 2-5seconds ?? So with 2 players shouting their heads off you end up watching maybe 25% of a match which is just shouting!!!
    Because of this, now, I tend turn off any matches with Harimoto, because he is the Cho champ!! I just find the shouting poor viewing and to a certain extent poor behaviour, for me volume level and the number of Cho’s could be turned down.

    Now, WHO DO I / YOU / US / TABLE TENNIS AS A SPORT, REALLY WANT CHOING AND SHOUTING THEIR HEADS OFF?????

    THE FANS, THATS WHO!!!

    Then no one will give 2 flying ####s about the player Choing because you’ll never hear it !!!

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    Talking of Ali bieng brought up repeatedly it would be great to be exactly like that. Boxing banned talking and the like in the ring ages ago because of him. But equally look at boxing forums and AJ is ridiculed for bieng humble and talking politely.

    McEnroe is famous for his bad attitude and back talk. But look he got entire matches disqualified for it.

    Golf? Dont see tiger doing a dime esque pleasure moan into the ear of every swing of his opponent.

    Actually it's very rare to see somone celebrate every minor point. Football players are a bad example because it's been years that their drama has made headline news and mockery but also they celebrate goals only which are usually about 1 in 40 minutes.

    Look at neymar, money and successes and fame beyond even ma long dream let alone harimoto, harimoto is as far from him as I am from harimoto. What happened when he was bieng too stubborn about his fake acting. He was made into a complete laughing stock.

    I don't know why people think because I dislike his screaming I am jealous.
    Honestly I am mostly annoyed because he is one of the few who can make a difference in a tournament and beat unexpected people but I can't stand to watch his games.

    But I praised him badly last three comments and almost so has everyone who hates his screaming. We all said we like him.

    But those who dream harimoto filled dreams think that dislike of just his voicing means we dislike him, yet we are sensitive .

    And as said if Tomo really benefits from the push it gives him and isn't to neg his opponent then it's interesting that he does it less when he is bieng beaten, which if my understanding is correct is when he should need it more than ever.

    Inb4 those clankity tomokazu (TM) keyboards are flexed by the hiki in the thread.
    If this post is directed at my comments, I think you are taking things too literally. I am fine with however people feel about the cho-ing. All I was stating is that this sport needs something that stands out personality wise, this has been severely lacking for a long time. Whether or not people think Harimoto helps to get that attention is up to you but I was just proposing the idea that it is one possible attention-getter for a sport that has consistently failed to garner attention out of it's own special interest group (those who play).

    By no means do I love the cho-ing. But, one thing I actually like about it is that it makes him a villain. If you don't like him, you like to see him lose. You might tune in to watch him get shut up by his opponent. This is a good thing. And it definitely gets people watching. I encourage anyone to go look at ITTF's most watched videos of all time on YouTube - look at the videos which are match highlights and see if you notice one common player

    Lastly, I find it a little hypocritical that you are praising the virtues of respect for others etc. yet on more than one occasion have name-called those who disagree with you on this thread.

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    A little food for thought: since you expressed in another thread that the ITTF immediately needs to have a product more marketable and entertaining for widespread international TV consumption, you may want to consider that this sort of behavior actually helps things to go viral. The sport isn't going to grow into an international TV phenomenon with a bunch of sterile personalities huffing and puffing for 30 minutes and then politely shaking hands.
    there is a lot of truth, that some charisma, sexiness (remember Kournikova ?) and flamboyance wouldn't hurt for table tennis, but would you say that Harimoto ear piercing screaming is any of these things?

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    The point is that tension can be released after every point and that the celebration mechanism is designed to intimidate the opponent. Nadal may bounce the ball more on critical points but he isn't going to scream so loudly that it is obnoxious to his opponent.

    Harimoto is doing more than just choing. No one gets annoyed by just choing.
    I have to disagree that he's trying to intimidate his opponent. He purposely looks away from his opponent when he chos which I can't say the same for all other players that cho. I can't remember the names of the players, but there were a couple of high profile CNT women players that were choing and *staring* at their opponent while doing so. It even surprised Adam Bobrow. Now I'm not knocking the players. It was a pretty intense match in an important tournament. But I've never seen HT stare down his opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IB66
    No one answered this question, why??
    tournaments in Japan are now apparently full of shouting youngsters?
    what I’m asking is, has the Choing at tournaments started / become more normal since Harimoto became famous? Did he always shout?? Or is this a more recent trait?

    When i started playing again, a couple of years ago, I watched a couple of Harimoto’s matches, WOW, what a talent, this young man is gonna be world champ came straight into my head!!! The choing was there but, is just me ? Or has it got worse?? I think it has got worse and louder? But because of the next paragraph below I don’t know??!!!

    Generally I can only watch highlights of matches, these are compressed down a lot. So for one point (time from serve to next serve is maybe 2-5seconds ?? So with 2 players shouting their heads off you end up watching maybe 25% of a match which is just shouting!!!
    Because of this, now, I tend turn off any matches with Harimoto, because he is the Cho champ!! I just find the shouting poor viewing and to a certain extent poor behaviour, for me volume level and the number of Cho’s could be turned down.

    Now, WHO DO I / YOU / US / TABLE TENNIS AS A SPORT, REALLY WANT CHOING AND SHOUTING THEIR HEADS OFF?????

    THE FANS, THATS WHO!!!

    Then no one will give 2 flying ####s about the player Choing because you’ll never hear it !!!
    The loudness of cho might be the result of advanced technology in broadcasting. Better quality and more input in volume. That gives the perception of increased loudness during chos.

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    It is good to know tennis is very respectful and does not have any colorful figures in its history:
    Quote Originally Posted by zyu81
    You are missing the point still. It is because of a storyline. Something that gets people talking, that gets media attention, that catches attention.

    Harimoto's cho'ing is just one of several things that creates a storyline.

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Name="List Table 7 Colorful Accent 6"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Mention"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Smart Hyperlink"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Hashtag"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Unresolved Mention"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" SemiHidden="true" UnhideWhenUsed="true" Name="Smart Link"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Normal tabell"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:8.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:107%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} </style> <![endif]--> Let me clarify. I agree that characters and colourful figures add storyline. And I´m a big fan of Harimoto.

    But I don´t agree with those who say that we must accept players (Harimoto) screaming very loud after every point, otherwise the sport of table tennis will not grow. I´m very unsure that loud screaming will grow the sport and I think there are better ways to do that.

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    Zhu don't worry they're not at you directly. And actually I don't mind people bieng a bit disrespectful in interview etc, as you say it's fun. Mayweather was tuned into because he was hated. As another said it's a good storyline. It's more the lack of respect for the sport and making the most watched forms of the sport (short form matches) unwatchable for many.

    I actually would love somone like him to come out and be cocky or say how ma long has a weak backhand and is old now it's his time. Harimoto would be perfect for this because of his age and the fact it reminds me a bit of USA Vs Russia in chess.
    But not at the expense of the sports watchability and general rules of conduct on the table. Imagine if every time FZD won a point he did a 30 second dance. Adds about 32 mins to his game with ma long. It would mean the final would take about 1:20 and :50 is picking up balls and dancing

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