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Spin and more spin.
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Spin and more spin.
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If framed differently, I think there is usefulness to the side discussion if properly tied back to the original subject of the thread in a useful way.
Different people naturally gravitate towards different kinds of contact. You could have two players of the same level, one who will get more spin from a Stiga Offensive Classic or a Butterfly Primorac Off- (both Limba top plies [softer]) and another player the same level who may get more spin from an Avalox P-500 or a DHS Hurricane King (both Koto top plies [harder]). And the way their strokes developed, one player will contact the ball in a way that makes ball quality better with the softer blade, and the other will contact the ball in a way that makes ball quality better with the harder blade.
I purposely chose 4 different blades with similar thickness and flex but different top plies.
Ply Construction for each blade is:
1) Offensive Classic: Limba-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Limba
2) Primorac Off-: Limba-Limba-Ayous-Limba-Limba
3) P-500: Koto-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Koto
4) Hurricane King: Koto-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Koto
HKing and P500 are same ply construction but don't feel the same. They are also very similar in ply construction to the Offensive Classic except the top ply. In fact, if you had an older OC (maybe from back in the 1990s) it might have a Koto top ply too because there was a point where Stiga used a Koto top ply for the blade.
Anyway. So the point is, no two players are exactly the same. And what might be the spinniest blade for one player might not be for another player.
However, I would say, that as a general principle, for someone developing the ability to spin the ball, it is often easier to learn the skill, with a blade that is a little softer and more forgiving.
So, the question of "What is the Spinniest but Fastest all Wood Blade", the question itself, is flawed because it appears to assume that there will be one answer for everybody but different people will have different experiences because we all contact the ball slightly differently.
Different people naturally gravitate towards different kinds of contact. You could have two players of the same level, one who will get more spin from a Stiga Offensive Classic or a Butterfly Primorac Off- (both Limba top plies [softer]) and another player the same level who may get more spin from an Avalox P-500 or a DHS Hurricane King (both Koto top plies [harder]). And the way their strokes developed, one player will contact the ball in a way that makes ball quality better with the softer blade, and the other will contact the ball in a way that makes ball quality better with the harder blade.
I purposely chose 4 different blades with similar thickness and flex but different top plies.
Ply Construction for each blade is:
1) Offensive Classic: Limba-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Limba
2) Primorac Off-: Limba-Limba-Ayous-Limba-Limba
3) P-500: Koto-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Koto
4) Hurricane King: Koto-Spruce-Ayous-Spruce-Koto
HKing and P500 are same ply construction but don't feel the same. They are also very similar in ply construction to the Offensive Classic except the top ply. In fact, if you had an older OC (maybe from back in the 1990s) it might have a Koto top ply too because there was a point where Stiga used a Koto top ply for the blade.
Anyway. So the point is, no two players are exactly the same. And what might be the spinniest blade for one player might not be for another player.
However, I would say, that as a general principle, for someone developing the ability to spin the ball, it is often easier to learn the skill, with a blade that is a little softer and more forgiving.
So, the question of "What is the Spinniest but Fastest all Wood Blade", the question itself, is flawed because it appears to assume that there will be one answer for everybody but different people will have different experiences because we all contact the ball slightly differently.