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10-23-2021 1634977922 #321
Hurricane 9 will have 4 additional colors? Strange and curious to find what it would look like.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2021 1635151685 #322
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-26-2021 1635275606 #324
From November 1st
https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/product/ilius/
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10-29-2021 1635487782 #325
Mizuno's Q Quality, Q1, and Altius Inner/Combo/Outer officially released in Japan.
Q Quality is said to be lightweight, highly powerful, and highly durable(2 times more durable than Q5). Sponge hardness: 46 degrees.
Q1 is marketed as the first step of high-tensioned rubber in the Q series, with high-dimension of speed and spin. Sponge hardness: 44 degrees.
Altius Inner, Combo, and Outer come with 2 layers of Aramid carbon, but in different thickness, 1.4mm, 1.2mm and 0.6mm, respectively.
https://www.mizuno.jp/tabletennis/Q_series
https://www.mizuno.jp/tabletennis/altius/The Following 3 Users Like zeio's Post:
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Last edited by zeio; 10-29-2021 at 07:29 AM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-29-2021 1635541732 #326
I really liked what Mizuno did here with the new rubber QQ (or at least tried to):
1) top performance with SOFTER sponge, instead of using harder sponge
2) they fixed the weight problem of Q5, which was very heavy from what I read somewhere
3) more durable rubber is always welcome! It is something that the companies generally do not give much attention
Sounds very promising...Last edited by shinshiro; 10-29-2021 at 09:13 PM.
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says Needs more systematic trainingsays Needs more systematic training10-29-2021 1635544795 #327
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-30-2021 1635615519 #328
Xiom 36.5 alxI is coming internationally in december according to a youtube comment from Xiom.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-30-2021 1635638060 #329
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-01-2021 1635761217 #330
this looks so interesting. i like that brands try to make developments on equipments. it must be rooms for improvments from current shapes of today. excited to try one.
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11-01-2021 1635762008 #331
Few cons that immediately comes to my mind:
The neck and the wings area is reduced, will not fit users hand causing it to have less feel
Head is optimised to increase sweet spot, which means more rubber on the top, making the blade head heavy. Also, the new stiga FL handles are quite thin.
Rubber cutting will be a challenge, so will be for attaching an edge tape to it
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-01-2021 1635763763 #332
what is the advantage of that shape
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-01-2021 1635796449 #333
The wings must be something that stiga has tested and feel comfortable with, otherwise I'm sure they would not release it, or Truls would be using it. Perhaps it just the angle of the picture that makes it looks like more steap angles. Agree with you on the extra sweet and the possibility for head heavy - I would assume they have lighter material in the head, and perhaps a heavier lens to compensate.
Don't think rubber cutting will be a problem, have you seen Squid Game? Cutting around edges is easy.The Following User Likes calvincandie's Post:
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-02-2021 1635864691 #334
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-09-2021 1636451928 #335
The Q Quality could be a good backhand rubber. I really enjoyed playing with the Q5 on my forehand, but it's a bit heavy(even for forehand) and after about 100 hours of play it started to make a strange noise in a spot and a strange feeling too. I think the rubber detached from the sponge but it didn't developed a visible bubble.
So lighter weight and more durability is something that is very welcome and I guess the softer sponge is not a bad thing for backhand as the Q5 is definitely on the harder side.
I'd take it over Tenergy and any ESN tensor if the durability is similar, without question.
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says Equipment matters a lot to scrubs who can't make minor adjustments to their stroke.says Equipment matters a lot to scrubs who can't make minor adjustments to their stroke.11-09-2021 1636455100 #336
I wonder at what audience the rubber is aimed at. I think it might be too expensive for people who want to try out something new. Maybe in Japan Mizuno has a following which would splash the cash out, but I think in EU it is not known enough so people justify spending that much cash on an unkown.
/devnull
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11-09-2021 1636455486 #337
What piques my interest most is the list price of Q Quality. It is more competitive than Q3/Q4/Q5 at that price point.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-09-2021 1636456281 #338
To me the Q5 was like an inbetween rubber between T05 and D09c. Hardness in the middle of the two, spin potential in middle, the speed is more than either.
It has a grippy topsheet with I think even more tension than Tenergy or D09c. It's really nice to play with and the sponge is also totally on par with Butterfly offerings.
I think the death of the rubber is actually the super high tension it has. The rubber edge is rather fragile, if you hit on the edge of the rubber the ball can do a small chip on it. Maybe the pimples got torn too in my rubber and it's not even a bubbling issue. On backhand I would not be concerned at all and the topsheet grip is identical as new after 100hours of play. Also it's not a factory boosted ESN rubber, so playing characteristics should be the same during the lifespan.
If they fixed the durability and a tad softer sponge I think it's a backhand winner. Granted it's around Tenergy price at TT11, but Tenergy is not even in contest. (if durability is fixed)
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says Equipment matters a lot to scrubs who can't make minor adjustments to their stroke.says Equipment matters a lot to scrubs who can't make minor adjustments to their stroke.11-09-2021 1636457271 #339
Has anyone used this? https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/neottec-x5-m
I just saw that today. It claims to be MIJ and it is expensive :|/devnull
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This user has no status.This user has no status.11-09-2021 1636459345 #340
I only saw TT11 test video of it. It looks convincing and 50EUR is not too bad. It's a pity they didn't talk about sponge hardness by degree nor it's mentioned on the package.
I'm also wondering who is the maker. Daiki? Fuso? Sumitomo?Last edited by Zwill; 11-09-2021 at 11:28 AM.