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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong
    And Yasaka Trick Anti rubber for those who care!
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    Pics are here.
    The Mark blades look like almost similar with what were released a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong
    Either way, I think he deserves his own signature blade from Tibhar. He's a promising player and probably the biggest future talent on their roster. For having seen him played in person, he's impressive.
    Yes you are right.
    Tibhar needs change name of blade because people thinks that kinetic speed is monster fast blade and Darko Jorgic is very good player and you said that he is impressive so sometimes this is very attractive for players.... Who wants try something because they seen backhand or something...and they want the same
    Moral to the story is.... Dont make blades without name player- branding because it wont sell...
    Shang Kun use TAzlc
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    New blade from Butterfly, 5+2 ALC, hinoki outer plies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong
    And Yasaka Trick Anti rubber for those who care!
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    New blade from Butterfly, 5+2 ALC, hinoki outer plies.

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    Hinoki ALC now that is new..

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    New blade from Butterfly, 5+2 ALC, hinoki outer plies.

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    Will probably only be available in Japan/Asia.

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    A sardius, primorac or gergely with alc????

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    A sardius, primorac or gergely with alc????
    More like a thinner Cofferlait (5.9mm vs. 6.5mm) and less reactive.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    A sardius, primorac or gergely with alc????
    And they call it effort!!! Shouldn’t it be “effortless”

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
    It has lense or badge that is very similar to ones used by Wang Hao's Loki brand.
    The lens is reminding of the design of Tibhar GTC series which there has been speculations if that is the blade he is using, but Tibhar could be releasing a signature blade in 2021. That would be in place.
    Spare setup: Blade: Custom DHS W968 93.5g, FH: Hurricane 3 National BS (Black), BH: Tenergy 64 (Red)

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Konrad Bak
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    FL Viscaria
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    ST Viscaria.
    so you can see players are not in trouble when they change material from limba to koto and from zlc to alc
    It looks like Jorgic played with TB ZLC so he probably knows something about materials
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    Hasn't Kallberg been playing with Apolonia ST for a while now?
    A bit of topic, but there hasn’t been any clear pics of what AK is using. It is definitely a custom BTY blade Viscaria ST handle without the Viscaria lens.
    Just to add in more speculations it could be same batch that Dima is getting.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    A sardius, primorac or gergely with alc????
    I'm afraid none of them, since this new 70th Anniversary blade is 5.9mm thick.

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    #32
    It is jonyer on steroids, aka another rework from Butterfly with expensive touch.


    Quote Originally Posted by Giangt
    A bit of topic, but there hasn’t been any clear pics of what AK is using. It is definitely a custom BTY blade Viscaria ST handle without the Viscaria lens.
    Just to add in more speculations it could be same batch that Dima is getting.
    His equipment sound is energetic lively and Franziska equipment at the same match sounds dead like ZLC and we know he use Dignics...
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    New Stiga clipper wood, Liu Guoliang edition

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    #34
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    New Stiga clipper wood, Liu Guoliang edition
    Also:

    Clipper Wood 40th Anniversary Edition
    Inspira CCF (Close Core Fiber)
    Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin Ed. 2021
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    Nice to know the thickness of the Clipper Wood 40th Anniversary Edition...

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    #36
    CHROMATICAL DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN TYPES OF THE RUBBERS..

    Our Lord designed warning colorations for all toxic creatures as found in the Animal world. Toxic toad in blue, Toxic gnat in pink.
    On our side, we designed warning colours for all those disruptive & destructive rubber materials. Anti's all shall go in blue, and Long Pips all in pink.

    ITTF took the same view about the chromatic differentiation between rubber types, for the good of all players worldwide.

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    Wow,, it is some ingenoius solution to enable players to instantly tell the nasty disruptive materials from normal. Heh, BLUE anti's will be an utterly conspicuous colour and easy to discern in every situation at play.
    You see blue --BE ALERT of the anti
    You see pink ---BE ALERT of the LPs
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    Wow,, it is some ingenoius solution to enable players to tell the nasty disruptive materials from normal. Heh, BLUE anti's will be an utterly conspicuous colour and easy to discern in every situation at play.
    You see blue --BE ALERT
    You see pink ---BE ALERT TWICE AS MUCH.
    How about setting up REALLY USEFULL measures against CNT's cheating ? i.e. boosters and custom DHS rubbers not released on the worldwide market.

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    How about setting up REALLY USEFULL measures against CNT's cheating ? i.e. boosters and custom DHS rubbers not released on the worldwide market.
    All sorts of rumours abound!!

    Boosting maybe far more common than you may think!! (and not only restricted to Chinese type rubbers) I was surprised to learn that players boost their T05 etc

    If my memory serves me right there’s a thread on here somewhere with photos of German League players bats, the majority were using T05 and the pimple pattern was very prominent when compared to a ‘standard’ sheet, this could be a sign of boosting!! Some admitted they boosted.

    Pros have bespoke blades that may not be generally available.
    Sponsor issues?? Stiga blade BTY Viscaria handle !!!??

    Butterfly have versions of T05 etc that are available in Japan, not sure but there’s either an ‘S’ or another letter on the sheet to denote it’s ‘special’ it seems these aren’t generally available ‘worldwide’

    Are the top sheets ITTF approved but not necessarily the sponge?? I think this is the case.
    so manufacturers use different sponges with a standard top sheet, H3, H3 Neo etc etc, T05, T05fx, T05 hard etc etc, all with the same ITTF approved number code. So if a player wants a certain sponge???
    SP/MP/LP players buy separate sponge and then glue on an OX top sheet!!

    I believe that the ITTF have / are looking into better tests to identify boosting, I think the problem may be in the testing equipment required becomes more specialist, expensive and may not really be ‘user friendly’ or practical.

    Factory tuning is allowed, so all that will happen is that the factory will ‘tune’ or ‘boost’ the rubbers specially for each players requirements and express ship them to the tournaments for the players!!! Maybe they do already??

    This would make the testing pointless unless the ITTF remove the ‘factory tuning’ clause, this could then also screw up ESN!! as ESN rubbers are likely to have been factory tuned, hence the rapid drop off in performance and durability that many complain of !!! Of course this is hotly disputed!!

    At present it’s the VOC levels that are tested for, VOC are I believe classed as a hazardous to health, increased chance of cancer etc, but I read somewhere that the boosters are still pretty bad, they may not have the high VOC levels but still contain plenty of chemicals that are definitely not good for you by any means.

    The privately applied boosters are really the issue as far as health is concerned, I’ve used them, and will now treat them with far more caution, mask, gloves etc when / if I use them again. If booster / tuning is done in the factory at least there’s a chance that it can be controlled better, well in some countries more than others.

    At the end of the day, if you want total equality of equipment, then play PING PONG!! Which could be seen to be similar to a ‘Formula Ford’ race car. Same cars, team mechanics can tune up to a certain extent, but the driver ability is more of a deciding factor.
    Table Tennis is more ‘Formula 1’ in that there’s a ‘technology race’ between manufacturers. (Player ability isn’t really decreased in importance though and is still the major deciding factor)
    Speed Glue !!! Was this a ‘closed shop’ closely guarded secret at first???

    all good fun !!! Just suggesting it may not be as cut and dry as some think!!!

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    There is still the loop hole of boosting the rubbers in the factory. Unless ittf controls it, this will go on.

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