Need help with penhold grip

I think has a video on YouTube titled : "4 basic penhold grip " from MLFM table tennis.

Originally Posted by OldschoolPenholder

Need to cut and paste my reply to make it more readable. Answering on phone and didnt see where I left off and typed my ending in the middle. Lol at me

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Hello Sir:

If i understand correctly:

1st grip - most comfortable mentally plus FH dominant, almost no RPB

2nd grip - much more RPB but FH not as strong as 1st grip

Other members, both PH and non-PH, can probably give you better advice than me.

For whatever this is worth, I'm an advanced beginner or a beginning intermediate player. With that said, I do NOT play tournaments, probably won't ever play tournaments. I do not mind losing if I know I played to the best of my ability. I am on the journey to Self-Perfection, looking to improve myself and don't care so much about winning or losing. I changed my game from TPB to RPB. Lost many games in about 2 years making/learning the transition. I feel I am a better player now than before as I'm well-rounded and having a few extra tools to handle situations. HOWEVER, I lost many, many times before I finally have a decent game both FH and BH side. I got "comfortable with being uncomfortable". I "invested in loss". Took about 2 years for my hard work and many losses to finally show some winning results.

Good luck in your Training Sir! Look forward to hearing about your progress on whichever grip you choose!

It sounds like your 2nd grip gives you a 2-wing game. Play with it more to get mentally comfortable.

OR

get comfortable with learning to RPB with your first grip.

I went through 3 grips or so before settling on 1 grip as I was learning RPB.


With that said:

1. do you hate losing? if so, sounds like your first grip will give you challenges on balls to your BH.

2. do you have good footwork and energy? If so the spirit of PH is FH dominance and almost always using your FH.

3.

1. I hate lose when I dont do my best, when i dont do my total or minimum 70% of my capacity i hate much the lose.
2. I have an good footwork but on process, i dont have much energy on aerobic and cardio exercises because im a little fat lol : )

I use rpb on the first grip but on im desprepared moments i use tpb blocks and obvlious the balls goes to net. I dont feel confident with rpb on the first grip.

Originally Posted by LucasPrime

I think has a video on YouTube titled : "4 basic penhold grip " from MLFM table tennis.

so, i use the wh grip adaptation on first grip, i cant do the xx grip because my minimum finger is curled and hurt when i use the xx grip, i dont like the curl and ma lin grip.

I think penholders adjust their grip like shakehanders Do during the play.

Are you RPB only? If not, then there is no such thing as perfect for both forehand and backhand, just find something that gets by without uncomfortable finger pressure.

1. The first one looks OK-ish, maybe you are extending too much, but find a comfort zone and work with it. Ok to have a little more curl. Also, the tendency to hook your index finger probably comes from JPen habit, no need to bite into the handle, in fact I always found a wider front side grip easier back when I did use RPB.

2. Claw grip? Seen a few of those when I played at a retirement recreation centre in China a few years back. Not good, not much you can do in front of the body.

3. Zhuang Zedong is a pro... but his grip is unconventional even during his days. Good for more wrist in tradition backhand, but you almost have to lift the elbow for forehands. Cazuo Matsumoto is similar. Neither have "powerful" forehands that (IMO) all penholders should have.