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    xiom close to tenergy

    hello ,which of xiom omega series is clode to tenergy 05 ?

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    xiom omega IV pro or elite . I play with omega iv elite on the backhand and im very satisfied with it . Its 80 % as good as tenergy in speed and 90 % in spin and it costs half a tenergy . definetely worth to give it a try . Pro is more fast , europe even faster and asia is like a tenergy 64 in terms of speed . The only thing that changes is the sponge , all xiom omega rubbers have the same topsheet . Hope i helped
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    I would say Omega IV Pro. Vega Pro is a bit harder. The Omega IV Elite is closer to T64.
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    I just edited my post after getting correct info from tt edge and my club mates


    xiom omega iv elite is similar to T64 not T05 ! t05 has harder sponge than T64

    hard sponge = big swing = maximum speed (hard sponges need more power to compress but when they do they give more speed than softer sponges , it is like the modulus of elasticity in springs)

    soft sponge = big swing = maximum control
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    Hey TTF...nice video and thanx for the info buddy
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    thanx , im a fan of physics / mechanics so i try to study table tennis from their point of view to understand it better :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTFrenzy
    tenergy 64 is really fast with hard sponge . xiom omega iv elite is slower with softer sponge . xiom omega iv asia with the hardest sponge of all omega iv series is the closest one to tenergy 64

    hard sponge = big swing = maximum speed (hard sponges need more power to compress but when they do they give more speed than softer sponges , it is like the modulus of elasticity in springs)

    soft sponge = big swing = maximum control

    tenergy 05 and xiom omega iv elite have soft sponges so they are similar
    My experience is the opposite frenzy. 05 has harder sponge and is preferred by top players as a forehand rubber. 64 is softer, has a higher throw and is more common on the backhand (as mechanics and technique is generally worse on most backhands IMO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttEDGE - William
    My experience is the opposite frenzy. 05 has harder sponge and is preferred by top players as a forehand rubber. 64 is softer, has a higher throw and is more common on the backhand (as mechanics and technique is generally worse on most backhands IMO).
    Indeed, 64 is supposed to be the softer one of the Tenergy family. I always used it on my FH and 05 on BH since my BH is much better haha. Now I use Xiom Vega Pro on both sides, it will definitely stay on the BH, not yet sure about my FH.

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    i admit i havent played much with T64 to have a full 100 % opinion . other players who use it have informed me about the hardness of this rubber . i have only played with t05 and t05 FX for a descent period of time . Im sorry for the misleading information my bad !
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    So I was right the first time?? Hahahaha:0
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    vega pro, but i havent tried omega series

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    I don't know that the Xiom rubbers are actually like the Tenergy rubbers. I think they are like the Xiom rubbers. They are good. They are worth trying.

    This is my understanding of the Tenergy rubbers. 05, 64 and 25 all have the same sponge. They sponge is not what changes. 05 has the smallest pips (narrowest diameter). 64, the pips are a little bigger which gives the topsheet a harder feel, but the sponge is the same. 25 has the largest pips, look at them if you ever get a chance, they are really big. That gives 25 the hardest feel. Again the sponge is not what has changed. Just the pips. All three have the same spring sponge.

    With Xiom Omega IV, this is my understanding. What changes is the sponge, except on the Pro where the Sponge and the Top Sheet has changed. Elite has the softest sponge. Europe is harder than Elite but softer than Pro or Asia. Asia is the Hardest. And then, with Pro, the sponge is somewhere in between the hardness of Europe and Asia, and the topsheet is a slightly harder rubber.

    Here is the link to where I got that info on Xiom Omega IV: http://www.mytabletennis.com/shop/ru...ro-rubber.html
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    Thank you all. I send an e mail and asked the xiom.

    The answer was that the omega pro is close to tenergy 05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by el gato
    Thank you all. I send an e mail and asked the xiom.

    The answer was that the omega pro is close to tenergy 05.
    I have hit with them both. The sponge bounces differently. The topsheet is waaaaaaay different. They both are good rubbers but they are not similar. I like Omega IV Pro about as much as Tenergy 05 but they are not similar. They both work well but they do not play like each other.
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    More on the differences:

    Tenergy's topsheet has a slight tackiness. Xiom's topsheet is completely smooth. So they generate spin differently.

    Tenergy's spring sponge, when you bounce the ball softly on it is not bouncy. But when you dig in to a shot, the spring in the sponge kicks in. Xiom Omega IV Pro's sponge is much more bouncy when you drop the ball softly on it, but has about the same bounce when you swing harder.

    Xiom Omega IV Pro is excellent rubber. Perhaps, just as good. But they are very different rubbers.
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    obviously el gato wants a rubber cheaper than tenergy with "similar" efficiency or at least close to tenergy
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTFrenzy
    obviously el gato wants a rubber cheaper than tenergy with "similar" efficiency or at least close to tenergy
    Xiom Omege IV Pro is great, Omega IV Europe is great, Omega III Europe is great, Vega Pro is great. Any of those are top notch. More than good enough to use to replace Tenergy. But they do not play like Tenergy. I just don't think Tenergy should be the comparison in that way. They are different. The Calibra rubbers are not like Tenergy either but they are great rubbers.
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    xiom vega pro is good rubber or just cheap rubber ?

    can you anyone give a review? is cole to tenergy?
    Last edited by el gato; 03-22-2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    Vega Pro is pretty good. Omega IV is supposed to be the improved version but Vega Pro is quite good and quite reasonably priced.
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    Thank you

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