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    If Butterfly keeps on making rubbers they may eventually get it right.

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    I'm guessing its a downgrade of the D05. For some the D05 is a tad to fast, so Butterfly just made a slower D05. Something like the Rozena.
    I wouldn't call it a downgrade. It's a different offering: an improved Tenergy keeping the standard medium hard sponge of the regular Tenergy series. For those who don't want the hardness of Dignics and prefer a more lively rubber.

    Personally, Dignics is too hard for me and I find it hard to engage the sponge. I also enjoy the bounciness of Tenergy on the BH. Although I find it too bouncy for me on the FH.

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    If Butterfly keeps on making rubbers they may eventually get it right.
    Hi brokenball,

    Seems to me that most Buttterfly rubbers get it right by a lot of players, pros and amateurs alike, no?

    What about Butterfly rubbers do you not like and what are some rubbers that get it right according to you?

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    Isn't this a "Tenergy G1"? Market to win...


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    If Butterfly keeps on making rubbers they may eventually get it right.
    Butterfly is very widely used so I think they have got it right. Also despite the higher price many are still buying Tenergy/Dignics so I’m guessing they have got it right. Most pros use butterfly so I’m guessing whatever they are doing is right. Above all they are a business to make money and those that can afford their prices will always buy, those that can’t afford it will complain their products are too expensive or no good.

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    It was a sarcastic comment.

    Don't you see that the TT rubber manufacturers keep making something different just so you will buy it and try it$ The new rubbers aren't necessarily better than the ones before. Yes, Butterfly has very good marketing$ They got this right$

    Butterfly makes good rubbers but they don't make ME better$
    BTW, I can afford to buy Butterfly rubbers I just choose not to$

    The TT manufacturers are depending on the EJs out there. Open your wallets$

    BTW, I thought the numbers of the rubber indicated the order in which they were developed. First there was T05, then T25, then T64 then T80 but now we are back to T19. ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball

    BTW, I thought the numbers of the rubber indicated the order in which they were developed. First there was T05, then T25, then T64 then T80 but now we are back to T19. ????
    I think you're correct - on the product page they refer to T19 as "no. 219", so clearly they just keep trying different iterations until they find something meets their needs. Perhaps it would have been better for them to name it T219, since the numbering scheme doesn't actually relate to anything about the product properties.

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    #28
    Tenergy 80 was pimple code 180... they just named it 80 to make it easier... same with (2)19...
    I don’t get the discussion... does it make a difference whether it is 219 or 19?!?
    If it would be andro, they would have called it tenergier and tenergiest...

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    Don't you see that the TT rubber manufacturers keep making something different just so you will buy it and try it$ The new rubbers aren't necessarily better than the ones before. Yes, Butterfly has very good marketing$ They got this right$

    Butterfly makes good rubbers but they don't make ME better$
    BTW, I can afford to buy Butterfly rubbers I just choose not to$

    The TT manufacturers are depending on the EJs out there. Open your wallets$

    BTW, I thought the numbers of the rubber indicated the order in which they were developed. First there was T05, then T25, then T64 then T80 but now we are back to T19. ????
    I wasn't mad at your post, just wanted to see what you meant by it, sarcastic or not.
    And I totally agree with your post above!

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    Butterfly Japan reports than Gustavo Tsuboi is now using T19 on both FH and BH, Jon Persson on BH, and Eric Jouti on FH and BH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenball
    Don't you see that the TT rubber manufacturers keep making something different just so you will buy it and try it$ The new rubbers aren't necessarily better than the ones before. Yes, Butterfly has very good marketing$ They got this right$

    Butterfly makes good rubbers but they don't make ME better$
    BTW, I can afford to buy Butterfly rubbers I just choose not to$

    The TT manufacturers are depending on the EJs out there. Open your wallets$

    BTW, I thought the numbers of the rubber indicated the order in which they were developed. First there was T05, then T25, then T64 then T80 but now we are back to T19. ????
    BTY should make a real bad-azz rubber and name it F13... complete with a large action pic of a hockeymask wearing 2m tall dude with a bat in one hand smoking apowerloop and a running chainsaw in the other.
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    We could settle for a menacing looking blade...

    ...like this ***

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    I think its more of a mathematical puzzle e.g. find the operators that satisfies

    80 05 05 19

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    Ans : (80 + 05) / 05 = 19 ...

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    In my mathematical world this would be 17

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    80 ≈ -05 + 05*19. Fixed in physicist bistro math mode!

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    Meanwhile at a Chinese Manufacturer - Damn this Butterfly .. Now, which of our sub $20 Rubber should we Market as a cheaper T19 Clone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Echte
    BTY should make a real bad-azz rubber and name it F13... complete with a large action pic of a hockeymask wearing 2m tall dude with a bat in one hand smoking apowerloop and a running chainsaw in the other.
    Don't give all your ideas away or the goon squad will steal them for themselves!

    I want to see this on a Nexy rubber or blade in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funk Fu Master
    Meanwhile at a Chinese Manufacturer - Damn this Butterfly .. Now, which of our sub $20 Rubber should we Market as a cheaper T19 Clone..
    Easy answer, any and every single one of them: "To all our distributors, change product info of your site/page as T19 clone right this second!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas.pong
    Don't give all your ideas away or the goon squad will steal them for themselves!

    I want to see this on a Nexy rubber or blade in the near future.
    Hi Thomas,

    Nexy Korea Boss is a Pastor, don't count on a F13 version of MX-K anytime soon.

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    ha ha .. here is my excuse ... well it was late and der_echte was prodding me to post .. so I had to come up with something ..
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