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    choose one


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    I would go for the new PG5x, if I was to select only from the two.

    However, you might want to take a look on other brands like:

    Loki
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    they got very good blades within the price range

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    Quote Originally Posted by chintanmashroo
    I would go for the new PG5x, if I was to select only from the two.

    However, you might want to take a look on other brands like:

    Loki
    Tmount

    they got very good blades within the price range

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    no you can't choose dhs pg5x because pg5x is more expensive.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...archweb201603_

    it's stuor vs pg5.
    one on one.
    mano y mano.
    only one will come out victorious.

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    Neither, but my mind would be more at ease with a low end DHS than whatever Stuor is...

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    Neither, but my mind would be more at ease with a low end DHS than whatever Stuor is...
    I've actually owned 2 blades from stuor (one I still own) and they are fine for the price. Finish could be better though.

    When it comes to the OP, I would just save up for the Fang Bo B2. It's like 10$ difference and you will have much easier to resale blade and higher probability of good quality.

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    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3303...66604c4d5MEF9P

    This one is ZLC not ALC, looks like the Stuor Malong copy but is the much
    better quality than both the Stuor and the DHS PG5

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3303...66604c4d5MEF9P

    This one is ZLC not ALC, looks like the Stuor Malong copy but is the much
    better quality than both the Stuor and the DHS PG5
    https://aliexpress.com/item/32966218436.html
    That is the one I got. I would be amazed if they weren't from the same factory.

    Also got ebony one from the same seller. Neither one of them feels close to ALC (based on what I got from Butterfly Innerforce) or ZLC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3303...66604c4d5MEF9P

    This one is ZLC not ALC, looks like the Stuor Malong copy but is the much
    better quality than both the Stuor and the DHS PG5
    the composite looks just like the one from stuor.
    just because they say it's zlc doesn't mean it is.
    it's a fake factory from china lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by olzetezkarzo
    the composite looks just like the one from stuor.
    just because they say it's zlc doesn't mean it is.
    it's a fake factory from china lol
    we all know that they are fakes.
    We all know that they are made in some factory who turns them out by the thousands.
    Just go to Alibaba (not aliexpress) where one can order these kind of blades by the hundreds for a few dollars each.
    What finally is inside the laminate will always be a bit of a gamble.

    When it comes to quality of finish and end-control one can probably say :" If you can not see the difference-just go for the cheapest one""

    P.S Actually, as far as finish quality is concerned the DHS one looks the worst to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuba Hajto
    https://aliexpress.com/item/32966218436.html
    That is the one I got. I would be amazed if they weren't from the same factory.

    Also got ebony one from the same seller. Neither one of them feels close to ALC (based on what I got from Butterfly Innerforce) or ZLC.
    I would be amazed if they were from the same factory
    and you did never really expected any of these cheapies to play like an innerforce butterfly in the first place.
    Still, I think they are all good value for money

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro
    I would be amazed if they were from the same factory
    and you did never really expected any of these cheapies to play like an innerforce butterfly in the first place.
    Still, I think they are all good value for money
    I did not they played worse. I preferred the Lemuria Long 5 over the Butterfly Layer ALC. I kind of regret selling that blade. The new owner gives it a lot more attention than I did eventually. I think that Butterfly blade has more noticeable kick. Lemuria blade was stiffer but had smoother speed increase very similar to Donic Ovtcharov No.1 Senso. The Donic blade feels much much much much much much better which is understandable. The power curve is similar though. That is why I cannot wrap my head around how come they claim to use "same" composite, have similar composition and play so much different.

    Sorry for siderailing the topic. I will write to XVT and ask where does the blade come from.
    Pics of my Lemuria Clone V from Too Fun Store.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/5XfkNqaFrFqUbz9a9
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    """"""""That is why I cannot wrap my head around how come they claim to use "same" composite, have similar composition and play so much different."""""""by Kuba Hajto

    I can explain: I used to make my money with running a small laminating business. I used to buy 180gr/m2 Carbon fibre Kevlar- and Hybreeds by the 100m roll.
    Just about every roll i got, the carbon would be stiffer or softer, the individual fine fibres would be thinner or thicker etc etc. This would also affect the wetting of the laminate with resin.

    We haven't even started to talk about wood, 85 % of a blade.
    Just because the name of the wood is the same, the thickness of the individual veneers the same, the directions by which the individual layers are laminated together, the moisture content of the wood ....................it never stops.
    Shall we even bother to talk about the different resins and glues ???

    I follow with keen interest the few people that here in this forum show us their skills making custom blades and they have my admiration.
    I made a couple of ""Clowns"", just for "occupational therapy" . I play with one of them in the moment but can not compare with my Butterfly ALC properly until my latest shipment of rubbers arrive and I can fit the identical rubbers on both blades. I can play with both blades OK. (At my level )

    Please keep me informed if you get ever an answer from XVT . That might be interesting.

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    Neither, but my mind would be more at ease with a low end DHS than whatever Stuor is...
    Why ???
    The DHS is most likely made in the same (or similar) """backyard""" factory than the other clowny blades

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    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...1aec5c92y3l44M

    I am posting this just for a laugh but it does give a bit of insight . And it only costs $ 2.48 if you buy 5000

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    No other chouces? Why choose fakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_bear
    No other chouces? Why choose fakes?
    Originally Posted by olzetezkarzo , he only wants us to choose between the two blades he lists, of course we shall not be restricted

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    also it's not the same when you beat someone and they come to check your racket to see a "malone" or to see a dhs.
    being beaten by a "malone" is more depressing


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    i think you got this completely wrong.
    When they come and check your racket after you whooped their butt and you show them
    your racket is a $ 4.35 piece you just picked up from the mall the day before, now THAT IS depressing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodro
    i think you got this completely wrong.
    When they come and check your racket after you whooped their butt and you show them
    your racket is a $ 4.35 piece you just picked up from the mall the day before, now THAT IS depressing !
    there is a limit because if the paddle is too bad it acts almost as antispin so they can say "I lost to a player with an antispin racket".
    but malone with sriver..... you lost to malone.

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