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    How to stop Someone buying to fast equipment

    Hello,

    i have a friend who want to buy an alc or carbonado blade With rasanter r53 or bluestorm z1 turboin max. But he only plays Kreisklasse in germany, so the lowest league. Now i think it is going to be to fast but he said i lose with slower equipment so i can fast equipment it doesnt matter. Now how do i stop him from buying this an wasting Money or am i wrong and he should play the fast equipment.

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    Sometimes you just have to let people make their own mistakes and choose their own learning path.

    Also, leave room for the imperfection, in principle, of your own judgement.

    You can also use any unforeseen benefits that might occur, such as being able to have a go yourself with a very lightly used rubber, discarded in frustration.

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    Classic, let him buy it, and when he is frustrated buy it off him for a fraction of the price.

    PS: bluestorm and lower 45 carbonado is actually not that fast.

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    Umm, honestly, I had the same urge of buying fast equipment, which would lead me to make enormous mistakes. I lost so many important matches because of faster equipments (getting hyped from watching pro players over YouTube).

    Initially, I didn't notice the huge difference it made during practice sessions and got to know this during actual gameplay/matches.

    I used zjk szlc with T05 both sides.

    After this lockdown, I made a resolution of starting from the basics and practiced a lot with Avalox P700, with H3Neo provincial and R50; which was one of my favourites some 3 years back. It took me more than a month to get the FH confidence back, however BH was still a problem with R50.

    I borrowed a IF Layer ALC from a friend and started practicing again, this time with a softer BH rubber Omega VII Euro, FH H3 Neo provincial. This helped me a lot to gain my confidence back and started shooting rockets again. This again took more than a month to become comfortable with the equipment change.

    I already sold zjk zlc as I knew I wouldn't be using it again. I have kept the zjk szlc to remind myself not making that mistake again, or infact using it when I reach that level of Pros.

    Hope this story of mine helps.

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    And yeah, Carbonado 45 is really good for controlled offensive play.

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    If they are so hard headed then let them be. It is their money and regret anyway.
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    There is a mindset of winning the match tomorrow in the same league. And there is a mindset of going to the upper league.

    It’s the mindset that you want him to change, not the reasoning.

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    Laotsu said"

    there are three ways to gain wisdom

    Through meditation and contemplation - this is the most noblest way
    Through copying others --------- that is the cheapest way
    Through experience ---------------- that is the most painful way

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    Yeah, if the person has heard the information about how the faster equipment will cause him to take longer to improve, then there is not much to do but let him learn by trial and error.

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    If dude has an open mind, one day or one decade later, facts and empirical evidence will convince dude. Best you can do is do your best to convince your fellow man and woman presenting the facts.

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    Maybe he'll like it. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baal
    Maybe he'll like it. Who knows?
    That’s the thing. Almost certain he’ll like it.

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    The thing is, if he understands that the faster blade will likely prevent him from taking a full stroke and adding force to the stroke, and so, in the long run it will make it harder for him to improve his technique, and he still wants the faster blade, then that is a choice.

    But, if he wants to improve in the long run, then the choice is clear.
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    He wants to play in higher classes so he thinks he can already play the equipment a lot of player use in this class. but i think even there is a boll alc with tenergy or r47 the rubbers must use and not something after 50 degrees

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    Try kidnapping him and getting some dudes to tell him that if he plays with a faster blade he'll never see his family again.

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    Try kidnapping him and getting some dudes to tell him that if he plays with a faster blade he'll never see his family again.
    Where is Der_Echte? Has he infiltrated your mind?
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    Nah, dude should be free to choose, even if we think it is a dumb-azz move. We are not right to bug dude about it, jsut say what we think nicely and let it at that.

    Now if that dude started a national campaign to make it mandatory to use such and such, then such totalitarian efforts would justify deployment of Goon Squad with full authorized options ranging from simply a Biatch Slap to more dirty things, depending on how dirty they got.

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    Nah, dude should be free to choose, even if we think it is a dumb-azz move. We are not right to bug dude about it, jsut say what we think nicely and let it at that.

    Now if that dude started a national campaign to make it mandatory to use such and such, then such totalitarian efforts would justify deployment of Goon Squad with full authorized options ranging from simply a Biatch Slap to more dirty things, depending on how dirty they got.
    totally agree !
    Accelerated measures could include anything from shooting with molten chocolate to tarring and feathering.
    In my case just threatening to re-unite me with my family would be enough

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    Next thing is a year from now this guy will be 200 rating points better with his Primorac Carbon and we'll look like idiots.

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    I have been a larger idiot before more than once via the time-honored method of opening mouth and jamming dat foot way down there.
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